Stop Pretending You're A Patriot

Ok, your tags are all messed up, and I'm not going to turn this into a 40 page thing.

Of course I can be wrong, I'm just not in this case.

Now, I'm actually curious. What makes you think his successes outweigh his failures?

 

Why do you need the approval of others to "feel" patriotic?

 

You're very wrong and you've just insulted the entire armed forces. Care to say this to our faces in person? Care to tell all of us we're "un-American" for supporting the President?

I'll stop you right there cowgirl. The answer is no.

 

But they wouldn't have, and Trump wouldn't have had to say anything, if Kaepernick had been reined in immediately, during the Obama administration. As I said, Trump didn't start this mess, Kaepernick did, and the NFL allowed it to go on and to spread. And the fans didn't like it. So if you want to blame anyone, blame Kaepernick, blame the football players, blame the NFL, blame the fans, but don't blame Trump. And I'm not a Trump supporter. I think he's a narcissistic ass with too much money and not enough self-confidence, which is why he has to put his name on everything and always have the attention placed on himself.

 

And trump is just a guy who despises this country and the military.

Hmm, to be honest I really had to think about how to answer this one. It's hard to imagine supporting someone taking a dump on the flag while simultaneously not disrespecting that flag. What I know is that you can't support trump and still be bothered by disrespect shown to flag and country.

Who agrees is sort of irrelevant. All that matters is what's true.

 

Here is what is also true. If you are not bothered by trump, you aren't bothered by kaperink. However, pretending to suddenly be so offended by kapernik but not trump is exploiting flag and country and is insulting to flag and country.

 

As are the people turning off the NFL, cancelling their NFL satellite subscriptions, and choosing to not patronize those who advertise during football games.

The NFL will not stand for the loss of revenue, and so will force these players to choose between standing for the anthem and paying a fine.

 

You're comparing apples to microwaves. Kaepernick doesn't represent anyone's love or hatred for the flag. It's about POLICE.

The bullshit you're saying is that if you support the president, you are disrespecting the flag. The bullshit you are claiming means that you hate our US Armed Forces and Veterans.

 

You have to re-read what I wrote, and recheck the logic.

That being said, your logic is completely scrambled.

Now, supporting someone who despises the country and armed forces, and is terrible for the country, terrible at his job, an utter embarrassment, sews chaos and discord wherever he goes doesn't seem very pro-American. It seems like rooting for this country to fail. At the very least, it isn't putting the country first.

 

It appears you just described yourself. And I do not support you. I actually support America. Unlike the alt left trolls who hate it

 

So now we're back to the "I know you are but what am I" phase.

All the facts point to me being right about trump. There are a lot of emotions against me, but not facts. Dodging donnie is not good for this country. He does not respect this country or the Armed Forces. He happily has and will continue to divvy up and sell this country to the highest bidder. Every moment he is in charge of anything makes that thing weaker. BECAUSE I love my country I despise trump. Nobody should cheer him on as he makes a mockery of his office and country.

Just like support for mugabe or hitler or kim jong un made their respective countries weaker, supporting trump is against the best interests of the United States.

 

No, we're not at any phase. You stated that you hate the Armed Forces because you believe they hate America. You, and all your alt left extremist friends who have the "agree with me or you hate America" mentality are the lamest of the trolls

 

There are a lot of emotions against Trump, but not facts

 

http://ca.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idCAKBN1CI24Y-OCASP

 

By the first game of the 2018 regular season, the NFL will have a rule that requires players to stand, subject to a fine.

 

Who said I do? And who is to tell me that I'm only patriotic if I stand for the National Anthem? that I hate the troops if I don't? This is a fallacious argument from the RWers on this forum regarding this issue so it would be best for you to ask them.

 

There is no such thing as a patriotic progressive if they believe in internationalism and putting other countries first.

 

I think owning hundreds of businesses is a start. Since 50% of new businesses are gone after 5 years, that is a pretty big accomplishment. He
His failures of larger proportion- he misjudged the character of the people, expected them to be more than they are.
In business, he can control the quality of people he has to rely on. In politics, this is usually done with lies and manipulations- you never call lazy people lazy or identify anything accurately if people might take offense. Trump isn't a politician. He calls a lot of things as he sees them. A lot of people are offended at not being fed the same crap that politicians have been giving them for years.

 

You asked why implicating you were looking for validation. Perhaps your question was rhetorical? Your sense of patriotism has nothing to do with RW, LW or CW. It has everything to do with you. The argument is fallacious from all sides.

 

Yep, and were a right of center poster doing it then he or she WOULD have been warned or banned without anybody even having to report the incidents.

 

Despises this country, eh?

Reckless comments like this are why you can't be taken seriously.

 

Exactly! Freedom people, that means you can kneel during the National Anthem, or not sing the words if you don't want to. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can force people to do it. The freedom of speech and right to protest allow these athletes to kneel. Now the NFL could decide to take a political stance and say it's not permitted when employees are on the clock, but that will not make this go away. Mark my words, fans will start kneeling in their place.

What drives me nuts is how many people are more upset about taking a knee during the National Anthem than they are about racial inequality. If people would get just as upset about that then we'd be getting somewhere. Also, how many people put their bowl of chips down at home, rise and sing the National anthem? No one.

 

They will pay the fine. They happily pay fines for excessive celebration when they really nail a play. Do you really think a fine will stop them?

 

Their contracts can be terminated

 

So everyone should be forced to agree that we all must have the same principals?