Study Finds Women More Likely To Be Physically Abusive Then Men

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  1. Wolverine

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    http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/r...-likely-physically-abusive-men/#ixzz35lPuAo62

    How are feminists going to address this issue? It seems playing the victim card and giving out free passes may not be the best mode of operation?
     
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    Why would they? it's already against the law to abuse someone...

    """“Relationship Terrorists” Study Finds Women More Likely To Be Physically Abusive Than Men
    Posted by Austin Petersen • 25 Jun 2014

    A new study into domestic violence is claiming to prove that in relationships women are more likely to be physically and verbally abusive than men. The University of Cumbria asked 1,000 people of both genders their experiences with domestic violence using a scale of aggression that ranged from simple verbal abuse to more aggressive physical violence.

    The findings came out in favor of showing that women are “significantly” more likely to be the aggressive partner. The women were also more likely to use controlling behavior such as banning their partner from seeing certain people, including friends and family.

    A lecturer in applied psychology Elizabeth Bates conducted the study and said about the findings: “This study found that women demonstrated a desire to control their partners and were more likely to use physical aggression than men. This suggests that intimate partner violence may not be motivated by patriarchal values and needs to be studied within the context of other forms of aggression, which has potential implications for interventions.”

    It is notoriously difficult to get an accurate study on how much domestic violence occurs to men considering the stigma on reporting it.

    Still, some people aren’t convinced by the study. Chief Executive of Women’s Aid Polly Neate said, “Some men experience domestic violence, and they need support. However many more women experience patterns of abusive behaviour, and find it much harder to leave when they do. Publishing statistics on domestic violence which don’t detail the frequency, severity and gender differences is irresponsible, and contributes to a situation where some services have to turn women away for lack of funding, but have to provide services to male victims which are rarely used despite being promoted locally.”
     
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    Hit like a Girl:
    Women Who Batter Their Partners
    Theresa Porter

    Abstract
    Domestic violence by women represents a blind spot for western society. Since 1977, multiple
    large scale international studies have demonstrated the women can and do beat, batter and murder
    their male and female intimate partners at a rate equal to or higher than that of man, yet this issue
    is not simply ignored but denied by society at large. Women’s use of domestic violence is
    misrepresented by the media and denied by feminists, both of whom find the topic threatening.
    Despite this gender symmetry in domestic violence, media representations display male
    perpetrators 10 times more often than they display female perpetrators and when it is displayed, it
    is usually shown as humorous. For the media and the society it caters to, domestically violent
    women represent a failure of social control; women are not behaving in the expected manner. For
    feminists, domestically
    violent women threaten the victim paradigm upon which much of Second
    Wave feminist was based. This paper will examine the prevalence of domestic violence by women
    against their intimate partners, explore the societal myths and gender dogma that both hides and
    perpetuates this form of violence by women.

    1. Introduction

    2. Denial and misrepresentation in research

    Yet if one were to ask most people, they would deny awareness of the extent of women’s
    domestic violence in western culture. This is in part due to the denial and misrepresentation of the
    issue by several groups, including Second Generation feminists, researchers and the media.
    The discourse on gender symmetry in intimate partner violence by Second Generation
    feminists often involves claims that women’s violence is less injurious than men’s violence, as if
    this is a relevant issue. No one should be subjected to abuse, regardless of their physical strength.
    This argument also ignores the women victims in violent lesbian relationships, where the
    difference in body strength can be supposed to be less pronounced. Finally, it is important to recall
    that women compensate for any discrepancy in size by using weapons more often than do men12.


    3. Denial and misrepresentation in media and society

    4. Consequences

    [...] Ultimately, all violence is complex and multi-determined with individual, social and cultural
    factors47. Women’s intimate partner violence occurs in the context of a significant double standard
    about violence and gender, with women’s violence seen as funny or unimportant, or simply not
    seen at all. It is somehow always circumstantial and beyond women’s control. It is time to move
    beyond simplistic, dichotomous thinking and biased research and recognize all types of intimate
    violence in order to stop it
     
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    Why would they want to address this issue when feminists are rabid misandrists?

    I'd like to see all forms of abuse end, period.
     
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    Except for the fact that is usually men that beat their wives, not the other way around and the rate of men killing their wives far outweighs the numbers of women killing their husbands. So you keep telling yourself it is the women that are really the bad guys but you might want to visted a battered womans shelter or hospital before making ludicrous claims that simply are not supported by the daily police blotters.
     
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    Weird. I had a friend punched holes in the wall after his wife punched him in the face four times, giving him one hell of a black eye.

    But, I forgot, women are incapable of violence.
     
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    I never said they were incapable of violence, I know of some women that have been every bit as bad as the men but don't read into what I stated, which is that it is men that are usually the perps committing acts of violence on their spouse, the records do not lie.
     
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    Usually? Women are more likely to use violence against the partner/spouses.
     
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    Source from a peer reviewed scientific study please

    Thank You
     
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    Source from a peer reviewed scientific study that supports your claims please

    Thank You
     
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    Either put up some hard numbers or just retract this. I'm tired of emotionalism being passed off as fact. When women act psycho, it often gets either glossed over or even held up as justifiable by pop culture. There is a tremendous double standard in our society.

    [video=youtube;5rkl_oLSKQc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rkl_oLSKQc[/video]
     
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    IF a woman did that to me I'd kill her then I'd kill myself.

    This is one of the things I hate American culture over.
     
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    If I had a nickel for every time someone has claimed that men are overwhelmingly the perpetrators of domestic violence, I'd have enough money for the jeep I'm saving money to buy:

    http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/V75-Straus-09.pdf

    CURRENT CONTROVERSIES AND PREVALENCE
    CONCERNING FEMALE OFFENDERS
    OF INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE
    Why the Overwhehning Evidence on Partner
    Physical Violel.1~e1>y"\Vo1ll.enHas Not Been
    Perceived and Is Often Denied
    MURRAY A. STRAUS
    Universi(y o/New Hampshire, Durham, New Hampshire, USA
    Over 200 studies have found about the same percentage ofwomen
    as men physically assault partners
    , and that the risk factors and
    motivations are mostly the same as for men. Explanations are
    suggested for why this fundamental fact has not been perceived by
    the public and practitioners' including concealment and denial
    by many academics who know the research. Explanations for
    concealment and denial are also presented, with discussion ofthe
    adverse effect that misperception and denial have had on prevention
    and treatment programs, The practical implications of
    recognizing gender symmetry in partner violence are discussed.
     
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    OK:
    http://www.ncadv.org/files/DomesticViolenceFactSheet(National).pdf
    and
    http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/domviol/facts.htm
    85% of domestic violence victems are Women, now back counting your nickels.
     
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    It's not surprising that both of your sources almost entirely ignore male victims of domestic violence. Much of the violence perpetrated against males by females is ignored and your sources are no exception. Many men who are victimized by women don't report their victimization to the police and nearly 40% of men who do report their victimization to the police are ignored. Female suffering is seen as much more important than male suffering and your sources are more evidence of this fact:

    One more nickel to add to the jar, I suppose....

    From the Journal of Aggression, Conflict and Peace Research

    “This drop in IPV against females and steady rate of violence against males raises an interesting policy question. There are many thousands of support programs, web sites and public-interest media items for female victims of domestic violence (DV), and virtually no programs and only a handful of web sites in the USA for male victims. Perhaps these programs and public education efforts have resulted in males, but not females, getting the message that DV is wrong.”

    “…those that are the core of the DV service system: DV agencies, DV hotlines, and the police. On the one hand, about 25% of men who sought help from DV hotlines were connected with resources that were helpful. On the other hand, nearly 67% of men reported that these DV agencies and hotline were not at all helpful. Many reported being turned away. The qualitative accounts in our research tell a story of male helpseekers who are often doubted, ridiculed, and given false information.”

    In 41.5 percent of the cases where men called the police, the police asked if he wanted his partner arrested; in 21 percent the police refused to arrest the partner, and in 38.7 percent the police said there was nothing they could do and left

    http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm?articleid=17042186&
     
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    I don't think it is "usually men that beat their wives." The other studies posted here seem to indicate that it's about even. But the difference in physicality means that a women beating a man just isn't going to cause the kind of damage that a mane beating a woman will cause. That's why it's women who wind up in the hospitals, not guys.
     
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    It all depends on the techniques of the physical violence.

    For instance gluing a man's privates while it's excited when he's asleep shouldn't be discounted.

    And other things like that.
     
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    I can pull websites all day long and I would venture to guess that 90% will garee that the vast majority will say the same thing, 85% of the victims are women. Thing is we should not call it anything other than what it is, Assualt, if I bet the woman next door They will throw the book at me if I assult my wife I would get a slap on the wrist. Call it what it is.
     
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    That will get you a trip to the hospital. What you tell the doctor may make a difference on whether that goes down as a domestic assault or not.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I don't know what jurisdiction you live in but in my county any domestic call is going to wind up in an arrest, It's not a slap on the wrist if, when you get out you can't get anywhere near your own home.
     
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    Exactly. Quite bizarre, the contention on the thread. Or delusional, more like.

    It seems the US Department of Justice statistics aren't good enough for them. So attributing delusion and ignorance to their premise here would be apt.

    U.S. Department of Justice
    Office of Justice Programs
    Bureau of Justice Statistics:

    85% of domestic violence victims are women.

    About 588,490, or 85% of victimizations by intimate partners in 2001 were against women.

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/ipv01.pdf
     
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    It is because they Want their fantasy to be true so badly, the bigger question for me is Why.
     
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    Seriously??? Have you never heard of the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA)????

    Starting with its title, VAWA is just about as sex discriminatory as legislation can get. It is written and implemented to oppose the abuse of women and to punish men.
    Ignoring the mountain of evidence that women initiate physical violence nearly as often as men, VAWA has more than 60 passages in its lengthy text that exclude men from its benefits. For starters, the law's title should be changed to Partner Violence Reduction Act, and the words "and men" should be added to those 60 sections.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/phyl.../violence_against_women_act_must_be_rewritten

    ....and VAWA gets even better

    The very category of “domestic” violence was developed largely to circumvent due process requirements of conventional assault statutes. A study published in Criminology and Public Policy found that no one accused of domestic violence could be found innocent, since every arrestee received punishment.

    It gets better...

    According to the Dept. of Injustice, some types of domestic “violence” are “extreme jealousy and possessiveness” and “name calling and constant criticizing.” IOW, one could commit the crime of domestic “violence” without being physically violent at all.

    Couple this with anti-male legislation like VAWA and this is why men end up going to jail. Basically, a man is just ONE mood swing away from being taken to jail.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2455289/posts
     
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    ...and not only are male victimizations of domestic violence by women under-reported but women's reports of domestic violence by men are over-reported because of rampant false accusations of domestic violence:

    Here, too, false accusations are rewarded. “Women lie every day,” attests Ottawa Judge Dianne Nicholas. “Every day women in court say, ‘I made it up. I’m lying. It didn’t happen’ — and they’re not charged.” Amazingly, bar associations sponsor seminars instructing women how to fabricate accusations. Thomas Kiernan, writing in the New Jersey Law Journal, expressed his astonishment at “the number of women attending the seminars who smugly — indeed boastfully — announced that they had already sworn out false or grossly exaggerated domestic violence complaints against their hapless husbands, and that the device worked!” He added, “The lawyer-lecturers invariably congratulated the self-confessed miscreants.”
    Domestic violence has become “a backwater of tautological pseudo-theory,” write Donald Dutton and Kenneth Corvo in Aggression and Violent Behavior. “No other area of established social welfare, criminal justice, public health, or behavioral intervention has such weak evidence in support of mandated practice.” Scholars and practitioners have repeatedly documented how “allegations of abuse are now used for tactical advantage” in custody cases and “become part of the gamesmanship of divorce.” Domestic abuse has become “an area of law mired in intellectual dishonesty and injustice,” according to the Rutgers Law Review.

    Restraining orders removing men from their homes and children are summarily issued without any evidence. Due process protections are so routinely ignored that, the New Jersey Law Journal reports, one judge told his colleagues, “Your job is not to become concerned about the constitutional rights of the man that you’re violating.” Attorney David Heleniak calls New Jersey’s statute “a due process fiasco” in the Rutgers Law Review. New Jersey court literature openly acknowledges that due process is ignored because it “perpetuates the cycle of power and control whereby the [alleged?] perpetrator remains the one with the power and the [alleged?] victim remains powerless.” Omitting “alleged” is standard even in statutes, where, the Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly reports, “the mere allegation of domestic abuse … may shift the burden of proof to the defendant.”

    Special “integrated domestic violence courts” presume guilt and then, says New York’s openly feminist chief judge, “make batterers and abusers take responsibility for their actions.” They can seize property, including homes, without the accused being convicted or even formally charged or present to defend himself. Lawyer Walter Fox describes these courts as “pre-fascist”: “Domestic violence courts … are designed to get around the protections of the criminal code.
     
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    Most married men will freely tell you that women can be irrational and quick to anger...but they will also likely point out these women do not resort to physical attack, if only due to the fear of reprisal.
     

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