Study: More Americans say they have had gay sex

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  1. Darkbane

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    I don't think the manipulation of data to make invalid points is humorous... I guess we differ in "opinion" on that greatly...

    I've long supported equal rights for gays on this website, and solved the great bathroom debate on this website as well, are you attempting to link me to a "virulently homophobic blogger" or did you forget to include some other smiley face meant to deflect away and alter your statements to be taken some other way?
     
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    Wow guy, you sound even more offended than snake stretcher. I didn't know I wasn't allowed to post my opinion since that's what the OP asked for on this political forum, which you commented on. Lol.
     
  3. sec

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    would you care to discuss the topic?
     
  4. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Right back atcha.

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    Let's see if they keep blaming white man and Reagan and claim we're just out to get the black man...
     
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    Or maybe, just maybe, it means people are becoming more honest with their answers now that the stigma is being erased rather rapidly.

    Na you're probably right, the ongoings in the last 10 years has made the number of people who are attracted to the same sex triple. In 20 years we might not have any straight people left!!! :roll:
     
  6. sec

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    I've posted that article before and even asked resident homosexuals here at pol forum if public nudity, erections and public fellatio is a requirement for "gay pride" parades?

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    love the sinner
    do not welcome the sin

    you have much to learn about Christianity
     
  7. Darkbane

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    its not just limited to prison either, thats just an easy to point out thing to people... its more with the underlying ability of choice, prison represents a clear limited choice of just men or just women... but the choice goes much deeper than physical restraints as a result of breaking a law and being incarcerated... its also with social constraints, those with smaller circles of friends, have less options and influence as well... as society has traditionally frowned upon differences, those who feel different will gravitate towards others who do as well, and in social groups we mimic the acts and behaviors that are accepted within those peer groups... which is why sexuality in those smaller groups is more likely and apt to draw in gay people who spread that among their group in acceptance, and it becomes a social norm in that group during this experimenting and learning phase in a young persons life... while the other larger social groups will have a far more narrow view of whats acceptable as a result of it being a larger group harder to resist and be different in...

    think of like the horrible analogy of the "jocks" versus the "theater" kids... there are far more sports teams with a large social construct, versus the much smaller more intimate nature of the theater group... so among that smaller group people who don't fit the "norm" will likely gravitate to it as the group is more accepting of differences because of the need to have peers and connections among others... while the larger jock group is less likely to accept anything different because there are so many that you must blend in and not stick out... one group fosters and nurtures individuality while the other opposes and silences it... it does not mean each won't have individuals who don't reflect the groups, but its far less likely... and among those smaller groups sexuality will be supported in various forms while only one version of sexuality will be accepted in the larger group...

    hence why so many gays gravitate towards these smaller groups, not just because they are born with some theater gene, but because they are naturally looking for peers and acceptance and will be far more likely to find it in a smaller group... and as that group grows together they will allow others to explore and act upon desires that don't fit that other larger group, meaning gays will not just gravitate towards them but prosper and spread among them... its the same scenario as the prison, but a different setting, its about the number of choices, and in smaller groups like prisons or theater groups it doesn't depend solely on being locked up with people of the same sex, but choice...

    (no offense to those in theater groups, it doesn't mean you're gay, its just the natural desire of people who don't fit in the larger social groups, wanting to belong to something that draws them to this style of a group, it could have been any number of other groups, I was just using a stereotypical group to show social choices impact this whole discussion as much as being locked up with a bunch of men and having no physical choice)
     
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    Who here at PF are the "resident homosexuals"?
     
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    FAST FACTS
    More than 1.2 million people in the United States are living with HIV infection, and almost 1 in 8 (12.8%) are unaware of their infection.
    Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSMa), particularly young black/African American MSM, are most seriously affected by HIV.
    By race, blacks/African Americans face the most severe burden of HIV.


    White hetero men didn't make the list either... But don't take the CDC's word for it.

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    Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM) of all races and ethnicities remain the population most profoundly affected by HIV.
     
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    it is quite OK to give hormone blockers to little children in attempts to change their sex but in some states, it's ILLEGAL to get counseling for any minor who desperately needs it because they are considering trying some gay-sex. What a whacked out society we've become
     
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    Correct... Pushing God out and letting peer pressure take over for the followers.
     
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    We can't all be as "Godly" as your hero Donald Trump....on his THIRD marriage to his SECOND mistress.

    :)
     
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    That's what it's coming to, and fast... Crazy Joe Biden is the main leader in that underage stuff.

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    No, and those individuals should be arrested - just like all the kids at festivals, spring break, and Mardi Gras.

    Your chosen sect of religion has no right influencing the lives of others
     
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    medicine has always had the motto of "do no harm" but it seems in this specific branch of medicine we do the most harm...

    decades ago harvard was studying gays and the effects of changing numerous levels of chemicals within the body to see if it could change perception or sexual desires in people... and they actually had some very early success in getting a small group of men who identified as being gay, and had gay relationships, to desire women over men, and in some cases the men stopped dating men and started dating women... the interesting part is there was no one single body chemical that altered this, it was a balancing of dozens of different natural body chemicals we produce, that seemed to cause the change... so it wasn't a "gene" so to speak that caused the desires, it was multiple imbalances of chemicals the body naturally produces, which may or may not have been affected by a gene, but it was an early sign something could be changed...

    problem is this would mean gay people did in fact have something "wrong" that could be "fixed" and that would set back the gay rights movement decades... and they put immense pressure on harvard to end the study and bury it in the vault... I can only imagine how much further we would be today in understanding the human brain and body chemistry of emotions and desires had that study been allowed to continue... I don't know if it would have lead us to "fixing" gay people, but certainly people deserve to have choices and opportunities to make those choices... but this was a large threat to the gay rights activists and they shut science down to appease political pressure...

    this is why I hate politics entering the field of science, it has no place there... on so many issues, not just this one...
     
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    Why would you make such a claim about a member with having absolutely no proof?? ...other than your own "hunch" on the matter. Not cool my friend!
    That shows a lack of maturity on your part - oh btw that's simply my "hunch."
     
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    Then if we secede, the left will say we only did it to preserve our right to be mean to the homosexual. That'll be in their talking points in the future, and it will only get worse.
     
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    Peer pressure? Presumably then one can be encouraged to engage in homosexuality by peers, including yourself?
     
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    That old worn out failed logic that if you're anti-gay, you're a secret queer. LOL!

    By your logic, you must secretly fantasize about heterosexual sex.
     
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    No "hunch".....he has stated that he believes that having homosexual fantasies doesn't make you homosexual...only engaging in actual homosexual sex. And when asked if HE has homosexual fantasies...he doesn't deny it.

    What's your analysis of those facts?
     
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    lesbians having the lowest rate of AIDS in america is because of how HIV is best transmitted, and that requires a penis... so its not that lesbians use protection at higher rates or are somehow more responsible than other categories of sexual activity, they are just naturally less likely to transmit it to each other by sheer design... the penis is the best friend of HIV transmission, its why bisexual men are more likely to transmit it to women they are married to, than men who are straight and married... ironic enough, the penis is the easiest thing to cover up and prevent transmission of HIV among all categories of sexual groups... yet we don't seem to do it still...
     
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    Per population statistics in the US, AIDS is decreasing in white MSM while increasing alarmingly in Africans and Hispanics. White MSM already accounts for a lower population rate than African MSW and African WSM. It is slowly becoming a disease of ethnicity over orientation.
     
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    See above....the person in question has made those statements and refused to answer about his own fantasies.


    BTW, what's Trump's position on gay rights? Not his "personal view of marriage"...but on gay rights?

    :)
     
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    In the 90's, I went to school with 3 known gays and none of them were picked on or went through hell. None of the other gay people I know ever went through hell either... We only know what we see, and I've never seen what you saw when it came to gay people. Other than the kid that caught a taxi ride home and got beaten to death for being gay. And the Middle East, Clinton's main money donating region.
     
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    You are incorrect about the hunch; if the poster is referring to the poster I infer they are speaking of they have admitted numerous times that they would be able to molest a child and "function" with a member of the same sex. People do not obsess over a topic like this particular poster does if there wasn't more under the surface.
     

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