Study Reveals 72 Terrorists Came From Countries Covered by Trump Vetting Order

I think you are going to have a hard time vetting a lot of them which means that the process will either be largely ineffective or deployed as a pretense to not call it a Muslim Ban. I mean apparently Russia warned us about the Boston Marathon bombing older brother, the FBI looked at him, and still nothing was done. I am not sure there is even a standard we would even be vetting toward. I mean we can agree if they post a beheading selfie on their insta we should keep em out, but what if they are just a wealthy, well-educated twenty-something which apparently a lot of suicide bombers increasingly are?

 

Mmmh …
Not a single terrorist of the attacks of last 5 years came out of these 7 countries, but out of others. So you are telling to close borders to all 40+ states with a ban where Muslims govern the country?

That those of the European terror attacks were aside 3 or 4 persons all people still living since decades in their country in 2nd, 3rd or more generation and still having, French, Belgium or German or whatever European citizenship and so not coming from these countries is uninteresting. That the Boston Bomber came from Chechnya = Russia is uninteresting too of course…
And to put on Iran on ban list is of course super, simply they are since embassy attack and hostage issue 40 years ago the evil of course and they support the evil Hezbollah. Oh … wait … Hezbollah? Woops, they live in Lebanon and not in Iran and so the ban against Iran prevents no Hezbollah terrorist more as before to enter the USA, because Lebanon is not on ban list, eh?

And is actually with those, say Yemetic Christians, who flee thanks to the civil war fueled by Iran and Saudi Arabia, because each side sees wants them as evil slaughter and kill as unbelievers, as the Islam haters always tell us when showing how evil this religion is... or do they lie?
They shall stay in Yemen and being slaughtered, who is interested in it? No One, more interesting why Brittney Spears has a new Piercing! And if one of them has the impertinence to reach the US border, then we pack him into the next plane and send him back to the Yemen. Correct?

Apparently, it is hard to understand that this ban is total nonsense. It is truly amazing that the man can sell the largest BS as an important and necessary measure to parts of his population. No, no one denies that the US is allowed to do everything necessary for their safety, but this should also be necessary and, above all, bring something in practice and this ban brings at least nothing to make America safer!

 

Irrelevant. You've been claiming "no Terror Attacks on US Soil since 9/11" , and this is utterly false.

 

We have them at every just about every field office around the world... but this could also be a last line of defense, administered here after all other vetting clears.

I see that you are committed to not letting this work. You asked what you thought was a rhetorical question, and seem miffed that there are answers... and there are people smarter than I am to develop more.
We are not meeting the bar for evidence in a court of law afforded you by the constitution. Beating a poly is not easy... you seem to think it is. It is one line of defense. If they are mentally ill, we dont need to import that. If they are on mood altering drugs, dont need that either. The amount of tests that would have to be administered in these 7 countries would be a few thousand per year. It would certainly be a lot easier just to not bother with them at all... but I am willing to give it a go.

 

Are you familiar with confirmation bias? Google it.
The world and threats we face are nkt static, but dynamic. The greatest threat of future attacks are from these nations, where the terrorists who vow to kill us run unchecked. They have hit Europe time and again in the last 5 years, the worst atrocities you can think of originated with these countries immigrants. We know for a fact that they have embedded terrorists in the refugees fleeing them, bound for the west with the sole purpose of committing atrocity.

They are actively seeking assylum in the US, to murder people. We are trying to prevent the loss of life, as we have seen Europe be exploited for their hospitality. Europes proximity and open borders have created a huge problem they are suffering for. There is a reason Brexit happened. There is a reason trump was elected. We think Europe got it wrong, and her people are suffering for it.

 

You are wrong. Obama shortened the vetting process to 3 months.

But that doesn't matter, the process could be 20 years and it wouldn't be good enough since those countries have no paper trail to check backgrounds.

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/pres-obama-reduces-syrian-refugee-screening-process-3-months

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Nope. The vetting process is suppose to keep them out of the country.

Are you that uninformed?

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Nope. The vetting process is suppose to keep them out of the country.

Are you that uninformed?

 

And out of which countries did the attackers of the following terror attacks in the USA come in origin as refugee etc. again....:

Fort Hood ... Nidal Malik Hasan, Son of Palestinian refugees coming from West Jordan area, being full US citizen and member od US Army!
Boston Marathon ... Dschochar und Tamerlan Zarnajew. Coming as refugees from Chechnya!
Little Rock ... Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad was American!
Failed attack on Northwest-Airlines-Flight 253 ... Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab came from Nigeria!
Failed attack at Times Square .... Faisal Shazad came from Pakistan!
Attack on San Bernadino ... Syed Farook born in the USA (Parents came from Pakistan) and his wife Tashfeen Malik came from Pakistan!
Attack of Orlando ... Omar Mateen was bon in the USA, his parents came from Afghanistan!
Attacks of New York and New Jersey (2016) .... Ahmad Khan Rahami came from Afghanistan!
Minnesota Mall stabbing attack .... Dahir Adan came from Kenia!
Ohio State attack .... Abdul Razak Ali Artan came from Somali!

So ... only the last one of all attacks where Islamist terror is reason was someone on the ban list of Trump! Wow ... non of the other countries is on the ban list and if I start with origin of well known terrorists of Al Qaeda at Osama area, you will see that also no one of them is of a country named on the list!

Really ... this ban makes America much safer against terrorists coming from same country as those above!

 

We have been lucky. We have great people trying every day to prevent it, and over the last three years, they have been lucky. There is a reason every attack you are likely to pull in Europe the last three years has been one of these immigrants. The proximity, and lax immigration policies/open borders made it much easier than here... but they are coming. Our enemy has looked us in the eye and sworn so. Why do you blind yourself to uncomfortable realities? I also encourage you to look up confirmation bias on wikipedia.

 

So hell on any Christian refugees and let them die in their countries ... because they could be Islamic Terrorist, eh? You know how fast you can find out if a male telling to be Christian is really Christian or Muslim? Same reason as at Jews...

And yes, as posted previously, the ban of these 7 countries makes America safer with look on all attacks inside USA since 9/11:

Fort Hood ... Nidal Malik Hasan, Son of Palestinian refugees coming from West Jordan area, being full US citizen and member od US Army!
Boston Marathon ... Dschochar und Tamerlan Zarnajew. Coming as refugees from Chechnya!
Little Rock ... Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad was American!
Failed attack on Northwest-Airlines-Flight 253 ... Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab came from Nigeria!
Failed attack at Times Square .... Faisal Shazad came from Pakistan!
Attack on San Bernadino ... Syed Farook born in the USA (Parents came from Pakistan) and his wife Tashfeen Malik came from Pakistan!
Attack of Orlando ... Omar Mateen was bon in the USA, his parents came from Afghanistan!
Attacks of New York and New Jersey (2016) .... Ahmad Khan Rahami came from Afghanistan!
Minnesota Mall stabbing attack .... Dahir Adan came from Kenia!
Ohio State attack .... Abdul Razak Ali Artan came from Somali!

Only the last one is out of a country named on list! Wow ... all others can enter the USA same way as before, if not born in the USA!

 

And which terrorist was again refugee in Europe at the well-known attacks? Ehm ... 2 of about 45 terrorists involved in all attacks! Wow ... So yes, our countries are in deep danger due to these 2 persons!
And those over 40% of Christians of the refugees are all suspicious Islamic terrorists of course ... I know!

 

So you are advocating the ban be expanded to include:
Afghanistan
Somalia
Nigeria
Chechnya
Pakistan
Kenya
Palestine.


Got it.

 

You mean this CIS?

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is a non-profit research organization that "that favors far lower immigration numbers and produces research to further those views." It was started as a spin-off from Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) in 1985. The Center's self-described mission is to "provid[e] immigration policymakers, the academic community, news media, and concerned citizens with reliable information about the social, economic, environmental, security, and fiscal consequences of legal and illegal immigration into the United States."

Reports published by the CIS have been widely deemed misleading and riddled with basic errors by scholars on immigration; think tanks from across the ideological and political spectrum; media of all stripes; several leading nonpartisan immigration-research organizations; and by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The organization has also drawn criticism for its financial and intellectual ties to extremist racists.

 

Why have any vetting process at all? Using your "logic', we should just let them all in since they have yet to commit a terrorist attack in the USA.

 

Source?

 

Or, according to his logic, our vetting processes and intelligence communities are actually doing their job. If you had looked at the list compiled in the OP, at LEAST half of the people charged were naturally-born citizens. Our problem is self-radicalization, not people being sent over here through an arduous and strict vetting process.

 

Wrong. The vetting process is suppose to keep them out. It obviously isn't.

3 months is "arduous"? Given the fact there is no paper trail on these people to check their background, explain the vetting process and how it works.

 

Right. 'Cause The Turner Diaries is a must-read for all young jihadists...

 

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257526.htm

In 2015, a total of 11,774 terrorist attacks occurred worldwide, resulting in more than 28,300 total deaths and more than 35,300 people injured. In addition, more than 12,100 people were kidnapped or taken hostage. In this report we describe patterns of worldwide terrorist activity with respect to changes during the year, geographic concentration, casualties, perpetrator organizations, tactics, weapons, and targets.


Now claim it wasn't due to their religion

 

That is what is supposed to happen. Do you have evidence it did?

 

Three months? The process takes at LEAST one year, minimum, to get through. The fact that you didn't even know that gives me pause.

http://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/how-the-refugee-vetting-process-works

There, look through the Heritage Foundation's explanation of how it works. It's a conservative think-tank.

 

You can argue that these are not on Trumps list, and maybe his list should expand...but you cannot say the US hasn't had a Terror Attack on US soil since 9/11. That's an outright lie, we have.

 

Your link is from 2015. My link showing Obama changed it to 3 months is from 2016.

 

It's clear that we need to ban interstate travel. I don't want Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists from Texas coming into MY State. Fences for everyone!

 

And Mexico! Don't forget Mexico! We gotta build that wall faster!

 

Is the Department of State of the US Federal Government good enough?

https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2015/257526.htm