Support for impeachment slips 4 points from October: poll

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  1. ronv

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    It's not like WWII, but yes people are still fighting and dying there.

    https://www.unian.info/war
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    I prefer this one:

    §30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
    (a) Prohibition
    It shall be unlawful for-

    (1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-

    (A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

    (B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

    (C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or


    (2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.

    But others like bribery or extortion.

    Then of course there is always the obstruction of justice.
     
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    Good thing none of those happened.
     
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    Happy hunting.
     
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    I need a favor though..
    Taylor:
    "clear understanding, security assistance money would not come until [Ukrainian President Zelenskiy] committed to pursue the investigation."

    Gordon Sondland says he told Ukraine it was unlikely to get $400m in aid unless it announced investigations into Trump rivals

    Vindman:
    “I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine,” Vindman said.
    "It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where the gain would be for the president in investigating the son of a political opponent."

    Hill:
    “Ambassador Sondland blurted out: ‘Well, we have an agreement with the Chief of Staff (Mick Mulvaney) for a meeting if these investigations in the energy sector start," Hill said.

    Yep. Nothing to see there. :applause:
     
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    so we have what they said vs what others have said.. whose lying?
     
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    What have "others" said?
     
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    yes Voelker's texts ring a bell?

    he explicitly said Trump didn't want anything from Ukraine except for them to do the right thing

    The Ukrainian president himself said there was no quid pro quo.
    The Ukrainians didn't eve know aid was being withheld
     
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    Are you talking about the one where he said Trump told him no quid pro quo? You are naïve.

    VOLKER: No. I believe that Giuliani was interested in Biden, Vice President Biden’s son Biden [sic], and I had pushed back on that, and I was maintaining that distinction.

    Read Hill's testimony about when Ukraine knew about it.
    Just a reminder. The WH meeting was also very important to Zelenskiy.
     
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    Funny, they meant something when you folks thought they said something you liked...
     
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    this makes it clear..

    [9/9/19, 12:47:11 AM] Bill Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.

    [9/9/19, 5:19:35 AM] Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly. Thanks.


    the texts between these people makes it absolutely crystal clear, everyone involved understood that this was about figuring out what happened in 2016.. NOT about digging up dirt on Biden for 2020.
     
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    :)
    Sondland only called Trump with that question after the texts and before he replied with that quote.
    Did you expect Trump to say of course I want a QPQ.
     
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    I am not going to determine his guilt based on things ne never said
     
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    Yep. He couldn't have killed him judge, because no one saw the bullet leave the gun. :)
     
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    Hell bullet? We don't even know therecwasca gun
     
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    WHY would they call Joe or Hunter Biden in Trumps impeachment ?
     
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    Those people would be republicans. The same republicans who scream “MURICA” and then refuse to stand up for what america is. You don’t get to carry the flag if you dont support what it stands for

    But you keep claiming the economy is great, but you refuse to talk about the 2 trillion you and Trump have added to the debt.

    In all honesty PP, I do hope trump wins for one reason, and one reason only. When the economy tanks.....which it will, I want him there so you and the rest of the righties can defend it. You cant blame this one on “Obama leftovers”.....
     
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    Republicans took it to a whole new level when Bill Clinton was elected
     
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    Not really Dutch. The “transcript” is just a “call memo” written by the Trump administration. But that memo, in and of itself is damning becuase it shows he did exactly what he is accused of.

    I love how the right in this country is attacking the character of ANYONE who dares not toe the Trump one. Attacking the character of an American soldier, who earned a Purple Heart defending that country is disgusting IMHO. And the right in this country is full in on that one to defend Trump.
     
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    Ummmm, Reagan served 2 terms.....

    What are you referring to ?
     
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    The will of the people does not userp the law. Your telling me that because Trump was elected, that all the laws should go out the window because he was “elected”. We have elections, and we have laws. POTUS is elected, we dont have a monarchy.

    All due respect TC, but will you afford that same loyalty to a dem president ?
     
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    Not what I said. I said THESE polls mean nothing because all of the information/evidence we see today is done thru the partisan lens of the media via selective leaking by politicians.

    Wait until we get the information straight from the sources, and have it vetted.
     
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    Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit
     
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    You may want to read up on that from a source other then Greg Gutfeld

    Reagan served 2 terms, and the Russian “memo” content has never been validated. And even if it was validated, the memo clearly states that Kennedy was going to run in ‘88.......Reagan couldn’t run in 88...
     
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    Your absolutely correct !
    Good luck lining up all those democratic congressmen in states that Trump won.

    Even if they are foolish enough to follow Schiff off a cliff, there is zero chance 19 republican senators flip.
     
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