Supreme Court blocks Louisiana abortion law on 5-to-4 vote

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  1. Daniel Light

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    He could put up the money to cover all the medical bills of every pregnant woman who wants an abortion to alleviate their financial concerns.
     
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    Especially black women
     
  3. Ddyad

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    Choose, but choose fast would be my preference, but I suspect that the recent revelations about the true nature of the abortion industry and the pro-choice movement will soon result in abortion being banned absent a significant health risk to the mother.
     
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    If he really thinks abortion is a genocide, he will put up every dime he has to keep poor pregnant women from choosing abortion.
     
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    Back to the way it was before - wealthy women taking "vacations" out of state and the poor turning to back ally doctors ... what a paradise that was...
     
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    If black women choose abortion fast....you are ok with this?

    How does this end the genocide?
     
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    It seems YOU support genocide.....if done early. Lol
     
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    Nobody counted the 60 million fetuses for anything else either, unlike how you would if they were born people.
     
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    Correct. Rummel did not take into account the use of abortion achieve ethnic cleansing of a population.
     
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    No I do not. "Safe, Legal and Rare" would eliminate the possibility of the use of abortion to commit genocide.

    "Safe legal and rare" first became a pro-choice rallying cry during the Clinton administration, and has been invoked by media-makers and politicians like – even President Obama has called the mantra "the right formulation" on abortion. It's a "safe" pro-choice answer: to support abortion, but wish it wasn't necessary."
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/09/hillary-clinton-abortion-legal-but-rare
     
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    Genocide:

    Per 1000:
    Abortion rate for black women: 25.1, 390 abortions per 1000 live births
    Abortion rate for white women: 6.8, 111 abortions per 1000 live births
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/ss/ss6713a1.htm#T12_down
     
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    We know that Sanger was a genocidal racist and that she claimed to be pro-life when abortion was felony.

    "Margaret Sanger’s involvement in eugenics is no secret. Linda Gordon, Angela Davis, and
    others have challenged the idealized image of Sanger and problematized her motivations.1 While many feminists and women’s health care advocates were instrumental in exposing the fallout from Sanger’s early alignment with eugenics, there were many who did not rise to the challenge—some out of fear of exposing birth control’s political history to hostile lawmakers and anti-choice lobbyists, others out of deference to Sanger’s perceived labors on behalf of gender equity, self-determination, and redress of economic and personal privation."
    Ordover, Nancy. American Eugenics: Race, Queer Anatomy, and the Science of Nationalism. Minneapolis: University of Minnesota Press, 2003. Project MUSE,
    https://muse.jhu.edu/chapter/1214461

    Did El Chapo admit he was a muderer?
     
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    That is what happens when white racist Socialist Democrats divert a family planning, birth control, choice movement toward genocidal ethnic cleanisng.

    "Among the 30 areas that reported cross-classified race/ethnicity data for 2015, non-Hispanic white women and non-Hispanic black women accounted for the largest percentages of all abortions (36.9% and 36.0%, respectively), and Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other race category accounted for smaller percentages (18.5% and 8.7%, respectively) (Table 12). Non-Hispanic white women had the lowest abortion rate (6.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (111 abortions per 1,000 live births) and non-Hispanic black women had the highest abortion rate (25.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (390 abortions per 1,000 live births). Data for 2015 also are reported separately by race and by ethnicity (Tables 13 and 14)."
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/ss/ss6713a1.htm#T12_down

    The CDC documents that there is no paradise on earth.
     
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    It did end in genocidal ethnic cleansing.

    er 1000:
    Abortion rate for black women: 25.1, 390 abortions per 1000 live births
    Abortion rate for white women: 6.8, 111 abortions per 1000 live births
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/ss/ss6713a1.htm#T12_down

    "Safe, Legal and Rare" failed even though 2 progressive Democrat presidents supported that approach.
     
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    excuse my cognitive dissonance, but is there no more freedom of religion in America?

    the abortion holocaust is caused by the absence of morals and modern day Merchants of Death

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_death
     
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    You logic depends on who starts the war. If we start the war, then we're saying we're willing to kill innocent human beings to get what we want. That nullifies any pretense of being Pro-Life.
     
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    Yes, there is big money in the family planning/birth control/abortion industry, but irrational white racism, eugenics and nihilism seem to be closer to the root of the problem than even the money that keeps the death machine running.
     
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    And now strawman arguments. In a war the other side is not innocent. Let me know when unborn babies start a war or necessitate us doing so. But on the flip side if your logic is we can kill innocent life then I guess you have no problem with wars to get what we want like the mother is killing an innocent life to get what she wants.
     
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    A fetus resulting from rape is an innocent fetus, but that doesn't make it OK to saddle the mother with either a birth or an unwanted, unwelcome child for 20 years.
     
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    Adoption is a wonderful thing.
     
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    :) You STILL haven't PROVEN that black women were FORCED to have abortions. That and ONLY that would show genocide...and YOU haven't shown that :)

    OR you believe black women should NOT have the same rights as white women...???

    Why? I've asked that question of you many times and YOU HAVE NEVER ANSWERED...
     
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    So?

    Do you think that because "adoption is a wonderful thing" that women should lose the right to their own bodies, a right YOU have????
     
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    OK, if it's NOT a disease why do women go to the doctor when they're pregnant?


    Here's a dose of reality...
    Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:


    • exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
    • altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
    • nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
    • heartburn and indigestion
    • constipation
    • weight gain
    • dizziness and light-headedness
    • bloating, swelling, fluid retention
    • hemmorhoids
    • abdominal cramps
    • yeast infections
    • congested, bloody nose
    • acne and mild skin disorders
    • skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
    • mild to severe backache and strain
    • increased headaches
    • difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
    • increased urination and incontinence
    • bleeding gums
    • pica
    • breast pain and discharge
    • swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
      (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
    • extreme pain on delivery
    • hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
    • continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
    Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

    • stretch marks (worse in younger women)
    • loose skin
    • permanent weight gain or redistribution
    • abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
    • pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
    • changes to breasts
    • increased foot size
    • varicose veins
    • scarring from episiotomy or c-section
    • other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
    • increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
    • loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
    • higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
    • newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)
    Occasional complications and side effects:

    • complications of episiotomy
    • spousal/partner abuse
    • hyperemesis gravidarum
    • temporary and permanent injury to back
    • severe scarring requiring later surgery
      (especially after additional pregnancies)
    • dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
    • pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
    • eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
    • gestational diabetes
    • placenta previa
    • anemia (which can be life-threatening)
    • thrombocytopenic purpura
    • severe cramping
    • embolism (blood clots)
    • medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
    • diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
    • mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
    • serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
    • hormonal imbalance
    • ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
    • broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
    • hemorrhage and
    • numerous other complications of delivery
    • refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
    • aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
    • severe post-partum depression and psychosis
    • research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
    • research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
    • research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease
    Less common (but serious) complications:

    • peripartum cardiomyopathy
    • cardiopulmonary arrest
    • magnesium toxicity
    • severe hypoxemia/acidosis
    • massive embolism
    • increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
    • molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
      (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
    • malignant arrhythmia
    • circulatory collapse
    • placental abruption
    • obstetric fistula
    More permanent side effects:


    • future infertility
    • permanent disability
    • death.
     
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    He said a rape victim is "saddled" with a child for twenty years. Adoption is a wonderful thing for the birth mother and the couple receiving a child they will love and cherish.
     
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    Here's a does of reality

    Normal, always and expectable permanent effect of abortion...............a dead baby.
     

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