Supreme Court rules in favor of same-sex marriage nationwide

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  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The USSC is anything but consistent. Remember this same court ruled 9-0 that Congress could not define marriage, leaving the states as the sole authority to define marriage. Yet here we are, they are just like every other liberal, hypocrites, liars, and unaccountable to anything but themselves and their delusions...
     
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    I'm not sure why you would conflate distressed cities (or even a distressed state like Kansas) with gender equality in marriage contracts.

    Some alienated from America are in a tizzy over progress and become confused.
     
  4. The Mello Guy

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    You realize that states already had to recognize out of state marriages before this ruling?
     
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    They were consistent, it should be up to the state, but that is just one topic. Unfortunately when the state deprives citizens of basic rights that other citizens are provided, then it became another topic, and then the USSC has to make that call as well. It was always about the state making or enforcing laws that deny citizens privileges, or denying "ANY" person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, not about defining words.
     
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    Pragmatic folks modestly recognize the United States is doing okay, and realize that neither the giddy optimists nor the hysterical doomsters have a firm grip on that reality.

    In ending gender discrimination in marriage law, the US merely follows the progress of its most advanced states, and of most advanced nations.
     
  8. PatriotNews

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    I fail to see how homosexual sex is progress which makes any nation more advanced.
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    I think you're confused. The Supreme Court did not rule on homosexual sex as that's nothing new and hasn't been illegal in quite some time.
     
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    Now there you go.....using perfectly good common sense in your assessment. Unfortunately, common sense seems to offend some people here. :roll:

     
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    You fixate on sex. Sex can occur within and without marriage - as can celibate relationships.

    Progress has been an ongoing process of extending equality - to Black Americans, to women, and now to same sex couples in entering into such contracts with all the responsibilities and privileges such contracts entail.
     
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    If homosexual marriage is not about homosexual sex then I don't know why we just went through this mess at all.
     
  13. Daniel Light

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    You really don't get it all, do you?

    Since people can have sex without getting married, and do so all the time - why would you think marriage is all about sex? It's about security, and partnership, and support.
    The first gay couple to marry in Texas were in their 80's. Do you honestly think that was about sex?

    This is just sad.
     
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    Meant to read: "Psychotic folks think the United States is doing okay" as race riots degrade major cities, a complicit media fuels the fire, and a national debt that Croesus couldn't pay accumulates daily.

    Concerning homosexual marriage, most pragmatic folks, well, quite frankly "don't give a damm"
     
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    Not married, are you? For the first six months or so, any new relationship (married or not) is mostly about sex. After 10 or 20 years, sex becomes pretty much a footnote. Fun from time to time, to be sure, but if you can't get past seeing your spouse as a sex vehicle, your relationship won't last very long, married or not.

    Marriage has nothing to do with sex, and little to do with procreation.

    Given the increasing number of couples who see no reason to bother with weddings and marriages, you might wonder why gays get so enthusaistic and emotional about an institution that's gradually losing steam. But I suppose the OPTION to marry is important, even if you never exercise it.
     
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    You're unaware that sex does not require marriage to occur? Allow me to direct you to the Bristol Palin thread...
     
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    If you and your wife were forbidden to have sex ever again, would you still want to stay married?

    No, it's not really about sex.
     
  18. PatriotNews

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    Heterosexual couples and homosexual couples are distinctly and inherently unequal.

    Being gay is not the same as being black. We are happy that the democrats have finally come on board with the republicans on extending civil rights to blacks. Being gay is not the same as being a woman. We are also glad to see that you are on board with suffrage 100 years after the republicans passed that.

    The problem is it will create a substantial conflict with free speech rights and religious freedom rights.
     
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    But only for the anti-Christ "Christians" who think their religion gives them a "break the law for free card". Hey, I like to drive fast. How about if I protest my speeding tickets on the grounds that I'm a Christian, my faith encourages me to go as fast as possible, and THEREFORE speed limits are a direct, vicious attack on my religious freedoms? Would you buy that?

    The fact is that nothing has changed preventing Christians from believing whatever they wish. What is changing is that Christians who decide to discriminate illegally can't blame their religion for their poor behavior. Religious freedom is not intolerance freedom, unless your religion is pretty sick.
     
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    Seems the all the right wingers really have are the culture wars. I never see any of them contributing anything positive to issues such as improvement and protection of the environment, creating jobs and how to keep them in the USA, addressing a failing infrastructure, not demonizing a fetus after its born and becomes an underprivileged kid due to policies that are draconian, admitting that trickle down economics has destroyed the middle class, improving affordable healthcare for all as opposed to futily supporting repealing it . Yep, only the wedge issues and culture wars. It reminds me of this...

    "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

    Alas, the right wing has no ideas.
     
  21. PatriotNews

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    Another reason not to allow gays to marry. They're gonna do it anyway. I congratulate you on your wise choice to take this opportunity to make a gratuitous shot at the Palin family. #WarOnWomen Democrats are so misogynistic.

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    I've known my wife since she was born. Yes I would stay with her.
     
  22. Flintc

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    But wouldn't that also be true of straight marriage? Or are you applying a double standard?

    Just pointing out that sex and marriage are disconnected, undermining your latest argument. Got any new ones?
     
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    This is like a very new law which basically says your religion is now illegal. Why do you want to persecute 80% of the country for the sexual proclivities of 1% of the population?
     
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    You'll put your ideological spin on it, but most Americans concur that the nation continues to recover from the dismal state it was left in in 2001, and is now doing okay.

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    Enlightened nations differ. Islamic theocracies share your attitude.
     
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    Whine and cry all you want in your churches. In public keep your religion to yourself.
     

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