"Supreme Court should act on gay marriage"

No, it hasn't been defeated. It has been completely ignored. There has been no movement to repeal it.

I wasn't mentioning anything about the DOMA in my post.

 

Not anymore. Check the news sometime.

Your interpretation of "degenerate" is someone else's fun Saturday night. You don't get to make those judgments.

 

Oh the irony in that statement.

And the hypocrisy.

Your words have no substance and ring hollow.

 

And you're a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hypocrite. You think everyone should live according to your standards. Sorry, bro, standards ain't universal. Your's are your's. And while they might be shared by others, that doesn't make them "right". You may have a god complex, but you are not god.

 

No really, that's just you.

You're the one who can't handle the fact that I have a different POV. And you're the one who's spending an awful lot of time trying to bully me and intimidate me into shutting up and submitting to your opinion.

And yet you don't like it when people tell you not to smoke pot.

So I've got to wonder who really is being the authoritarian here.

Indeed, it is you who can not handle a different opinion than yourself.

Your words mean nothing to me. You have no power over me.

And I laugh at you imposing your authoritarianism, trying to get me to either change my opinion, or shut me up, in favor of your your soulless mindless conformity.

What you really are is just another conformist at heart demanding people change their opinions and beliefs to please you.

You're the one putting the mental into judgmental here.

 

Again. . . it seems that we do not belong to the same world!

Here is what I READ:

 

Nothing in that supports your assertion.

And you didn't provide a link.

I would like to read more.

 

To you, maybe! To most reasonable people, they relate FACTUAL evolution in gay rights!

 

I did provide a link! Go back and see.
The fact is that the part of DOMA that refers to EXACTLY what you are talking about (i.e., marriage is ONLY between a man and a woman) "NO LONGER STANDS"\]

Follow the link provided and read more. . . that might be the most intelligent think you do today!

 

You haven't provided any real facts that I can check out.

Reasonable person checks out and verifies facts before making a decision, and then makes his or her decisions on what the facts say, not on what they want to or don't want to believe.

And the source must be from an unbiased source WITHOUT any kind of agenda, pro or con.

so provide me that, if you can.

I may be many things, an asshat to stupid people, a facetious person, a smart aleck, a man who stands up to bullies from all sides, an awful dancer, a witty guy, an intelligent enough guy to see through all kinds of dishonest tactics, anti social misanthrope, long haired computer nerd who loves pen and paper rpgs, MMOs, comics, novels, science fiction, history, archeology and astronomy, and am curious about all kinds of varied things, and I have all kinds of social anxieties from being bullied all his life, buuuuuuut....

But i do believe in actual facts. And I am a man of my word. And i will treat people fairly with respect who have treated me that way.

Which you have provided none.

Show me real facts that the DOMA has been repealed or defeated rather than ignored, without the crap getting mad at me because I do not agree with you, that's all I ask.

And don't forget the link.

Edit:

Never mind, i withdraw my challenge. I did some searching and found out that the DOMA is not entirely repealed, just section 3 of it. So here's what I found:

http://www.glaad.org/marriage/doma

So, I stand corrected.

 

Have to say it is rare to see a person admit to making a mistake .. kudos to you for doing so.

 

I am not an unreasonable guy.

There are just certain things I don't and will not and absolutely refuse to respond to.

I will not be bullied or intimidated by anyone.

You want to reach me, insulting me and brow beating me does not work.

Treat me with fairness and respect and I will return the favor.

Anything else is a no go.

Also, she made a mistake too, because what she posted confused me and made me think that the entire thing had been repealed, not just section 3.

 

Also that statement was NOT about the DOMA.

 

Huh, it's just liberal court activism when they don't support Hoosier8's position, but than its just due process when they do?

That's really convenient.

 

It can be difficult to hold a reasonable debate on such emotive issues and given the usual standard of some responses (myself included) makes it all the more difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. When I first came here I tried very hard to stick to points of the debate .. however that very soon became nigh on impossible and now it almost becomes an assumption that any one who is in disagreement with the other will, at some point resort to debating the person .. It would be interesting to have an adult debate with you as it is such a rare thing here.

 

While the SCOTUS and the lower courts are dragging this out. Other things of importance are happening:

 

This is what we've been waiting for and expecting with both hope and dread. A circuit split that will put enormous pressure on SCOTUS to take a case, this case!

 

Supreme Court here we come. Tennessee is in the same circuit-the 6th- as Michigan. Also included is Ohio, and Kentucky . It looks like there will be cases coming up from all of those states challenging the 6th Circuit's idiotic which upheld state bans on marriage equality.
Just hours after the Ohio plaintiffs who lost their same-sex marriage case in the 6th Circuit filed a writ of certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court, the plaintiffs in the Tennessee case have also filed.

 

CORCORAN, Calif. (AP) — Mass murderer Charles Manson has gotten a license to marry a 26-year-old woman who visits him in prison.

Yes folks, marriage is a fundamental right and obviously not about pro creation!

 

Maybe they'll be good role models?

 

nice, thanks for link

Manson is a White Heterosexual Christian, they have always had the "right" to marry, it's the other groups that have to fight for this right

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This could well be the case that SCOTUS takes:

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http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen..._supreme_court_to_hear_marriage_equality_case



There are cases communing up from all of the other 3 states in the 6th circuit as well!

Source:
http://www.freedomtomarry.org/blog/...w-marriage-is-moving-forward-in-all-50-states

 

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And...

 

This is getting exciting folks. I just hope that Ginsburg hangs in there for a while longer. I do believe that they will take at least one case-probably Michigan and rule that all same sex marriage bans are unconstitutional. Any bets?

 

Yeah, the 10th amendment does not apply here, since marriage was ruled as a federal constutional right years ago.