Syria(Ghouta) 'chemical' attack, is it the worst False flag operation in a history?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by litwin, Aug 22, 2013.

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and who is behind of this attack Assad or Wahhabits?

Poll closed Nov 29, 2013.
  1. Assad

    27.1%
  2. Wahhabits

    72.9%
  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    1) Obama doest want this war , its political suicide for him but for how long he can stay against party of war?
    2) France is an old colonial power , incapable to win a war since WW1, incapable to take over foreign cities , , keeps it for 50 years , $hitting in all UN resolution lands, like you can and they . in the same time France is very nationalistic county , nationalism adores victories that's why they sold Serbs (France traditional allies) . + this war will cost them 0 "franks" , the Saudis will pay all bills anyway.
    3) UK

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    oh my God, how?
     
  2. Gilos

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    I remember when Obama was elected for the 2nd time the anti Israel bounch celebrated that he now can do whaever he wants 'cause he doesnt need to concern himself with another electaions, now considering 60% of the Americans dont want to be engaged in Syria, how do you explain the US stance ?

    As I see it, the US has some obligations to some countries in the world (not just Israel) and the entire mega power concept is built on these obligations, now its true the US can say '(*)(*)(*)(*) u all" from now on we take care of our own and that's it, but just like anyone that workd for a big company knows, that's not how you conduct business, obligations must be kept. that's why I think we see Obama US getting closer to an action they dont really want to make, and its not because Colt Defense LLC want to sell another gun, Arabs are not their market anyway, its the Russian market.
     
  3. dixon76710

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    I see nothing to indicate they were anything other than Syrians firing the weapon and again, they were shooting straight into the air where only military targets can be found. And the 75% of your population that is Sunni, arent from Saudi Arabia and they are not Wahhabis.
     
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    this thread is about a muslim people being lied about, as it is muslims killing muslims technically, in the divide.

    and if US does not intervene, then no americans getting killed.

    The post i am responding too, is of bigotry as it is exactly the hate that can be found of people hating 'jews'.

    What I find sick, is snappo is labeled from a new york location and defends zionist (as jewish) - israel, which are supposed to be the 'victims' of the very same bigotry by many here in america, christians and the past holocaust.

    American's as human beings, want bigotry to stop. The false witnessing of truth is not acceptable.

    And then to suggest that you want muslims to be killed is of hate and bigotry.

    Combind they should be addressed as slime :321:

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    this thread is about a muslim people being lied about, as it is muslims killing muslims technically, in the divide.

    and if US does not intervene, then no americans getting killed.

    The post i am responding too, is of bigotry as it is exactly the hate that can be found of people hating 'jews'.

    What I find sick, is snappo is labeled from a new york location and defends zionist (as jewish) - israel, which are supposed to be the 'victims' of the very same bigotry by many here in america, christians and the past holocaust.

    American's as human beings, want bigotry to stop. The false witnessing of truth is not acceptable.

    And then to suggest that you want muslims to be killed is of hate and bigotry.

    Combind they should be addressed as slime :321:

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    this thread is about a muslim people being lied about, as it is muslims killing muslims technically, in the divide.

    and if US does not intervene, then no americans getting killed.

    The post i am responding too, is of bigotry as it is exactly the hate that can be found of people hating 'jews'.

    What I find sick, is snappo is labeled from a new york location and defends zionist (as jewish) - israel, which are supposed to be the 'victims' of the very same bigotry by many here in america, christians and the past holocaust.

    American's as human beings, want bigotry to stop. The false witnessing of truth is not acceptable.

    And then to suggest that you want muslims to be killed is of hate and bigotry.

    Combind they should be addressed as slime :321:
     
  5. SyrianGirl1982

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    Yes they were firing at a military plane and yes they deserved to die like worthless cockroaches that they are.

    Wahhabis do not only come from Saudi Arabia. Wahhabism / Salafism is an extremist ideology that originated in Saudi Arabia, but has spread to every country in the world. There are wahhabis in Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Germany, USA, England , Russia.

    People can become wahhabis even if they never been to Saudi Arabia. !!!

    And there are tens of thousands of foreign jihadis in Syria that fight against our army
     
  6. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny, I never even mentioned Iran. Not sure what you're babbling about, litwin.

    Yet, you still don't have a shred of evidence proving that the chemical attack was a "false flag". All you've got are your suspicions, unrelated incidents and a poll in the Political Forum to substitute for evidence. :lol:

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    Only completely idiot can believe the assaulter was Assad, without any doubts behind the 'chemical' attack hide themselves islamists.
     
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    So when Big Brother cannot win the battle for hearts and minds over Syria they change the subject away from invasion and funding terrorists to the messsage “Big Brother is watching you …”

    Just as when Big Brother cannot win the argument of public opinion against the Patriot Act they can have their govmnt front Anonymous try scare the Left Wing activists releasing info they are spied on …

    And when Big Brother finds no one is listening to its MIghty Wurlitzer propaganda media outlets they can muster up a Terror Threat, stage a bombing, the constant fear based reporting to control the herd.
     
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    Now to read a post that i just was criticizing, that snappo fool would want 130,000 dead american muslims?!?!?!!?

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  10. litwin

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    of cos you dont, but you meant it , dont you? give me an other good reason why would you support wahhabits(the KSA) war on a secular regime , if Its not Iran in a picture?

    you know, wahhabits are incapable to make a tractor so soon we all will see the truth, even you Talon .

    ps i know that you against assad but give him a credit he is a smart guy , he will never make a such a suicidal mistake
     
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    So much FEAR BASED REPORTING has been the trick to control the herd, PRISON PLANET PARANOIA AND FOX over used that card like 8 years ago !!!

    We have read the Thesis -Antithesis =Synthesis process used in Washington to cram thru illegal legislation. Spoon fed media, fake polls any old crap the 6 company cabal of COINTELPRO MEDIA and newspaper chains use to shape public opinion with. When they cannot win an argument with direct evidence (WMD for a Syria No FLy Zone) for example, they can manifest the FEAR in other forms to condition the herd. So it may not be advisable to take the bait in the future, but completely ignore refrain from using CNN, NBC, Guardian or the other big COINTEL MEDIA since their track record of deceit, MUST BE EXCISED from the public mind. The connections from TimeWarner war drama movies/CNN produced news to brainwash Americans into world war makes them more dangerous than Fox News, IMO. Fox are at least transparent idiot phonies and obviously Elitist subservient, the RNCs slavish and compliant blunderers, are so cartoonish and predictable its quite unnecassary that Media Matters would make their lifes work about it.
     
  12. litwin

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    +1,

    [video=youtube;HPCTBXse80c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPCTBXse80c[/video]
     
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    assads army doest fight 75% , population, it fights wahhabi- terrorists. much like you in A-stan
     
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    Looks like Kerry is pushing Obama into the war

     
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    Amazing that so many in the room are clueless. It is becoming more and more obvious the Assad government is the culprit. They will be met with force this time.

    Again, this is actual WMD....not the make believe Iraq kind.
     
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    the classical symptoms of FOX-news overdose : 0 contact with a reality...
     
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    BBC............

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    All that hatred for America and yet you are here? Why? What brought you here? Are you here to hurt Americans? Two days from now are you going to make believe you do not hate America again in another of your denials?
     
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    You want muslims to die like worthless cockroaches? Yeah, me too.
     
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    Salafism has long existed throughout the Islamic world. They generally follow the teachings of Ibn Taymiyyah who grew up and was educated in Damascus. Ibn Wahhab was just a later scholar of the Salafist movement. The only thing that distinguishes Wahhabiism from all other brands of Salafist Islam across the Islamic world is its apolitical nature in that the agreement made between Ibin Saud and Muhammad Wahhab in the 1700s is a part of their doctrine. Separation of church and state Islamic style with the house of saud having domain over all political matters and the house of Wahhab with domain over all religious matters. A rejection of the Islamic Caliphates that had ruled over the majority of the Islamic world during its history from 632 to the 1920s.
    In the 1920s the Ikhwan revolted against the rule of the house of Saud. As good salafist they couldn't restrain themselves from attacking the godless Shiites in Iraq. Breaking the house of Saud's treaty with Britain. And breaking Muhammad Wahhab's agreement with the House of Saud made 2 centuries earlier, giving the Sauds control over all political matters such as their relations with other nations like Iraq. Ibn Saud crushed the revolt. That portion of the Ikhwan who deferred to the rule of the Sauds, became the Saudi National Guard, those who refused were killed or expelled from Saudi Arabia. Many of them finding their way to Egypt where they helped found the Muslim brotherhood who rejects any governmental authority other than an Islamic government applying Islamic doctrine as law. Rejects any government other than the restoration of the Islamic caliphate that ruled from 632 to the 1920s. The only Wahhabi fighters would be the Saudi National guard. The likes of Al Qaeda reject wahhabism and its apolitical nature.
     
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    We blame Syrians for the current condition of civil war in Syria while you continue to blame the US.
     
  22. litwin

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    i know history i m not an american , question was about Al-Nusra Front, etc., which ideology did they adapt (if its not wahhabi/salafism) ?
     
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    Salafism
     
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    Actually no, considering anyone fond of slaughtering civilians in marketplaces blow themselves to pieces in suicide attacks. So unless they reassembled themselves, it's not the same guys.

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    What do you call non-state armed combatants dressed in civilian clothing with no recognizable insignia?
     
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    I think he does, hence the WH CONSTANTLY keeping Syria in the headlines.

    Obama has a hard-on for the excuse to get involved and wants further bloodshed every chance he gets, like all the recent US presidents who work for the same global war agenda. Political suicide occurs when you fail to march within this corrupted construct.

    Obama is simply a VERY talented liar and is extremely good at deceiving the masses about his true motive and desire.

    Hell, there's still tons of people that think he wants to close Gitmo!! He could easily let the innocents free, every excuse why he couldn't is debunked, and presidential pardon power is independent from the congress, yet his annual address about how Gitmo closing is important to him convinces people otherwise, while he won't even so much as attempt to intervene in the hunger strike!

    I would wager we will have another full-fledged invasion, if not in Syria then Iran, then just Iran, before Obama is done.
     

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