Tammy Duckworth Scorches Donald Trump As ‘Five-Deferment Draft Dodger’

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  1. ThorInc

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    I just did.
     
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    Perhaps in your mind, but perhaps you need to do it again, to evidence my own. I will wait. But understand, just because I do not hate trump, and spend my time here posting such a hate, in no manner makes me guilty of hypocrisy. I did not vote for him. I did not spend my time under obama, blasting him in the obsessive compulsive hate driven manner that you guys exhibit towards trump. I may have disagree with what he did, disliked some of his beliefs, but never made a fool out of myself as trump haters do here daily. As they are redefining just how bad hypocrisy can be. Taking it to a new level of utter brainless absurdity.
     
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    He didnt need to dodge he had a high draft number and would never have been drafted.
     
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    Republican Chickenhawk Mouthpieces:

    • Rush Limbaugh – sought deferment (because of a cyst on his tail end).
    • Ben Stein, actor, comedian, commentator, activist, etc.
    • (Rush's conservative brother) David Limbaugh.
    • George Will – sought graduate school deferment, (too smart to die).
    • Pat Buchanan – sought deferment (for bad knee).
    • Pat Robertson – his US Senator father got him out of Korea as soon as the shooting began.
    • James Taranto = Propagandist at the Wall Street Journal
    • Sean Hannity (FOX)
    • Bill O'Reilly: (FOX)
    • Glenn Beck (FOX)
    • Steve Doocy (FOX)
    • Brian Kilmeade (FOX)
    • Chris Wallace (FOX)
    • Brit Hume (FOX)
    • Roger Ailes (FOX)
    • Carl Cameron (FOX)
    • Matt Drudge.
    • Ron Kessler = propagandist
    • Marvin Olasky = propagandist
    • Joe McQuaid = propagandist
    • Steve Forbes
    • Michael "Savage" Weiner
    • Paul Gigot
    • Bill Kristol
    • Ralph Reed
    • Michael Medved
    • Charlie Daniels
    • Jerry Falwell
    • Alan Keyes
    • Ted Nugent
    • Chris Matthews
    • Neil Boortz
    • "P J" O'Rourke
    • Paul Harvey
    • Tony Snow
    • Donn Tibbetts
      = Union Leader reporter
    • Dinesh D'Souza
     
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    While most Democrats don't just say that war should be the last resort but truly believe it and try to resolve conflicts through more peaceful means, when just wars have been necessary and unavoidable, they have a long established record of putting their own lives and those of their own children on the line, rather than persuading other people to sacrifice themselves and their children:

    • Sen. & Presidential Candidate McGovern, one of the elite few Air Force bomber pilots to fly the maximum 35 successful bombing missions in WW II. Stephen Ambrose, who wrote a book about him, called him "one of the greatest patriots I know."
    • Jack Valenti ( President L.B. Johnson's special personal assistant) flew 51 combat missions as the pilot-commander of a B-25 attack bomber and received four decorations.
    • The famous liberal Democrat Norman Lear (of Archie Bunker fame) also flew 52 bombing missions, during that war, 37 of them over Nazi Germany.
    • Former Vice President Al Gore – enlisted August 1969; sent to Vietnam January 1971 as an army journalist, assigned to the 20th Engineer Brigade headquartered at Bien Hoa, an air base twenty miles northeast of Saigon.
    • Sen. John Kerry, Lt., U.S. Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat.
    • Gov. & President Jimmy Carter: Lt. Commander in the Navy 1946-53.
    • Gov. & presidential candidate, Michael Dukakis: Army 1955-57.
    • Sen. John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs; Air Medal w/18 Clusters.
    • During World War II, Sen, & VP Hubert Humphrey tried twice to join the armed forces, but was rejected both times due to a hernia.
    • Gov. & U.S. Sen. Chuck Robb: U.S. Marine Corps, 1961-70, Vietnam.
    • Sen. Daniel Inouye, US Army 1943-'47; Medal of Honor, World War Two.
    • Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) – U.S. Army, 1951-1953.
    • Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) – U.S. Marine served in combat in Vietnam 1968-69, and was awarded the Navy Cross, Silver Star, Bronze Star with combat V, and Purple Heart.
    • Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) – Lt., U.S. Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
    • Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) – U.S. Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
    • Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-SC) – served as a U.S. Army officer in World War II, receiving the Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
    • Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle, 1st Lt., U.S. Air Force SAC 1969-72.
    • Sen. Bob Kerrey, Lt. j.g., U.S. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam
    • Sen. Max Cleland, Captain, U.S. Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
    • Sen. Howell Heflin: .USMC WWII, Silver Star, Purple Heart (x2)
    • Rep. Richard Gephardt, former House Minority Leader – Missouri Air National Guard, 1965-71..
    • Rep. David Bonior – Staff Sgt., United States Air Force 1968-72.
    • Rep. Charles Rangel, Staff Sgt., U.S. Army 1948-52; Rangel served with distinction at the front in Korea. "where he received both a Purple Heart for being injured and a Bronze Star for bravery. The wounded Rangel led 40 of his comrades for three days behind enemy lines rather than surrender." [http://www.answers.com/topic/charles-b-rangel]
    • Rep. Jack Murtha (D-PA) – distinguished 37-year career in the U.S. Marine Corps, Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts, retired from the Marine Corps Reserve as a colonel in 1990.
    • Rep. Leonard Boswell (D-IA) – Lt. Col., U.S. Army 1956-76; two tours in Vietnam, two Distinguished Flying Crosses as a helicopter pilot, two Bronze Stars, and the Soldier's Medal.
    • Former Representative "Pete" Peterson, Air Force Captain, POW, Ambassador to Viet Nam, and recipient of the Purple Heart, the Silver Star and the Legion of Merit.
    • Rep. Mike Thompson, D-CA: Staff sergeant/platoon leader with the 173rd Airborne Brigade, U.S. Army; was wounded and received a Purple Heart.
    • Rep. Pete Stark, D-CA, served in the Air Force 1955-57.
    • Rep. Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII.
    • Rep. Jim McDermott: Navy.
    • Rep. Joe Stupak, served Navy 1974-2005,vice-Admiral
    • Gray Davis, California Governor, Army Captain in Vietnam; received Bronze Star.
    • Bill McBride, Democratic Candidate for Florida Governor – volunteered and served as a U.S. Marine in Vietnam; awarded Bronze Star with a combat "V."
    • Gen. Wesley Clark, Democratic Presidential Candidate – lengthy military career.
     
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    The draft didn't start until 1969 and repeated for a few years. Are you making things up?
     
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    Yes, and it was sometimes painful to walk the next day (patellar tendonitis). But now that you admit you were wrong about Trump playing basketball we can move on.
     
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    Again I just did and now you are side stepping to a rant and blaming others about the same thing you are doing right in this post. get it yet?

    Cadet Bone Spurs hides behind the military and the flag.
     
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    ironically you are doing the same thing :)
     
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    There were no school deferments in 1968-1969. Johnson suspended school deferments in early 68 and Nixon didn't bring them back until late 69.

    In the meantime Clinton lied to the ROTC officer at Arkansas about wanting to be am officer. He then didn't take part in the ROTC program at Arkansas at all as he went back to Oxford. When Nixon brought back student deferments Clinton again took advantage of the student deferment.

    But I'm 1969 Clinton dodged the draft by lying to the Arkansas ROTC and that's a fact.
     
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    fyi, snopes says it is false :)
     
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    Is this a surprise? :)
     
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    America hating military hating leftists will miss no opportunity to wrap themselves in the flag.


    The question is if Clinton dodged the draft. Snopes makes a strawmsn that Clinton is a pardoned felon. They admit that he dodged the draft but attack the strawman because. Since he was never convicted dodging the draft he is not a pardoned felon.

    Basic snopes logic.
     
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    Snopes, they are only good if the question is of someone strapped a rocket to their car.
     
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    LOL, this is not surprising.
     
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    When did you people suddenly become concerned about lying? Maybe Clinton changed his mind.
     
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    You must not know what hypocrisy is, as you accused me of it. For I do not see the evidence for my hypocrisy. I see just an obsessive trump hating hyper partisan, trying to turn hypocrisy into something it isn't. Perhaps you need to look up the definition of that term?
     
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    America's fanatical rightwing draft-dodging chickenhawks will never stop pimping needless wars they don't participate in.
     
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    What hypocrisy?

    Nobody said every president has to serve. That's entirely your strawman.

    We are saying that when you make a phony show of being a brave macho man of the military, as Republicans tend to do, then yes, your service record is a valid topic of conversation.
     
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    Go look it he had a high deaft number 356.
     
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    You people?
     
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    Let me give you an example, just to help you out. I never supported obama's wars, NONE. And I do not support trump's wars. No hypocrisy here on this issue. Now, use that and find my hypocrisy.
     
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    Perhaps you need to look away from the mirror, you, again, have come full circle. Best of luck.
     
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    How many wars has the left got us into? Idiots want to pull us into a war with Russia over Ukraine.
     
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    Ok, would you be happy if I said it was just juvenile partisan trump hatred that motivates it? Perhaps I should play your game and say that if you didn't serve then you have no right to blast trump for what you, in your biased mind, perceive trump to be doing? If you are a coward like him, perhaps the mouth should remain silent? Cowards should never talk about other cowards. It is hypocrisy.
     

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