Target loses $9 billion in market value in a week over LGBTQ Pride products

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  1. cd8ed

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    So you want to ban the flag from government facilities, I can somewhat agree with that as long as it applies to all other non-government entities.

    Should the 10 commandments be banned from government buildings as well? Or any other religious item.

    I do not agree that corporations will follow suit though. Should corporations be able to sponsor as they see fit?
     
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    Again, can you identify what these special rights are and what part of the constitution they violate?

    If you are saying it is marriage rights, can you identify how same sex couples differ from infertile heterosexual couples outside of their sex which is a protected classification and an unconstitutional qualification to limit equal rights on the basis of.
     
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    You can have your flag flying on your property. And maybe you see the ****ing thing pop up here or there. But what we have right now is this flag rainbowshit everywhere. It's beyond too much. It's obnoxious, arrogant and intrusive.

    Learn to know when you've overstayed your welcome. The normal person wants gay people to have the right to live free and pursue happiness like the rest of us, but enough is enough.
     
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    10 commandements is a about interaction between people and society, so it should not be banned because social behavior is a public matter.
    Yes, absolutely corporations should sponsor any group they want to support.
    The problem is that we do not know whether they support gays because they want it or because they are afraid to lose government subsidies.
     
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    It is actually very simple.

    From the government perspective only two type of couples are possible.
    1. couple that needs to be regulated by the government because of possibility of childbirth.
    2. any other couple that does not require government regulation.
    if child birth is disconnected from government regulation then benefits should be available to all types of couples, regardless of their motivation to form a couple.
     
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    So you feel people should be able to fly the flag, you feel companies should be able to display pride items or fly flags, you just wish they wouldn’t.

    I too am tired of the religious symbolism everywhere but I would never demand anyone take it down. I deal with it because I am an adult. If my children ask what it is I tell them that some people have different beliefs in a creator and that’s it.

    I don’t know where you live, but where my primary residence is located there are probably five instances of religious symbolism displayed on billboards, on ads, on flyers on marketing materials or on vehicles to every one instance of gay pride symbols.

    Maybe your views just conflict with where you reside.
     
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    Ah yes, your religion should be forced unto others but that’s where you draw the line. How fascinating.

    Religious grooming in other words.

    Can you cite where the government gives subsidies to corporations that support gay people? Or is this another fantasy?
     
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    Should elderly or infertile heterosexual couples be allowed to marry?
     
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    I feel like you don't need the month. You don't need the parades. And the pride flag virtue point **** needs to go. It should be a rare sighting at this point.

    You've got your equality. Stop annoying people
     
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    And people that have these events and attend these events disagree with you. Isn’t freedom grand!

    I feel the same way towards religion being shoved in my face 24/7 but I don’t cheer or mock violence against religious people because I believe they have the right to express themselves and their views. Where I stop is when they try and use those views to delete the rights of others.

    Notice the difference between our views?

    As to use “having our equity” — gay people are still discriminated against in adoption from taxpayer funded institutions, they are being banned from even being spoken of in schools, they are being hate crimed (something you seemed to almost celebrate because they got too “annoying”), laws are being passed to allow them to be denied medical care and even insurance coverage.

    So not only is your statement false, it is a reason why pride is just as important as it ever was.
     
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    And who the **** are you kidding comparing a sexual preference to a religion? We don't want religion in schools for a reason.

    Lots of people get picked on for one reason or another. White people Asians blacks...being gay is not as special or oppressed as it once was.

    And now you've jumped the shark and people are annoyed with all the bullshit shoved in their faces.

    So if you see a rise in hate crimes...might have something to do with it.
     
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    Don’t want gay people to be uppity, do we?
     
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    I'd say you jumped the shark and it's the obsessive compulsion to jam this **** in parades, in schools and everywhere else that's going to continue to see a rise in hate crimes against the lgbtq.

    So enjoy!
     
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    Oh. I thought we were just bitching about things we were tired of seeing. Or can only you do that?

    Ok

    You mean the people that hated gays previously are not attacking them and you are using that as justification people are tired of gay people being visible.

    Does that apply to other groups? Looking at the numbers the largest increases are against Asians and *gasp* White people!!!!

    You think white people should shut the **** up? Maybe we are getting tired of them rubbing their whiteness in peoples faces and the rise in hate crimes show that people are fed up with them.

    Do you hear how god d*** ridiculous that sounds?
     
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    I mean you've looped around and what was once sympathy and acceptance has turned into obnoxious and irritating. You jumped the shark once you started forcing this **** on children. Whatever violence festers from that is on those who insist on being obnoxious and irritating.
     
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    Stores selling a shirt with a rainbow on it isn’t forcing it on children. Nor is having gay characters in books or on TV.

    Same sex marriage support is at all time highs.
    Support for protections for the LGBT community are at all time highs.

    The only reason this is all being blown up is because Republicans need some ammo going into the next election and trans people are an easy target — attacking gay people has failed miserably, y’all got what y’all want by forcing women to remain pregnant and it’s spelling trouble in polling, it’s culture war after culture war — it works on the boomers but isn’t playing well with gen x and gen z.

    You keep saying “enjoy” like you have done something with gay people being assaulted — you are going to enjoy what happens over the next few elections minus maybe the next one if ronda and trump don’t tear each other apart.

    I love the victim blaming at the end.
    You are exposing yourself
     
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    Oh I say "enjoy" because I understand the concept of cause and effect. Progressives do not.
     
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    Cause: Conservatives don’t like another group being to visible
    Effect: Conservatives hate crime the other group

    Is that about what you are saying?
     
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    Victim blaming. Always an easy out isn’t it?
     
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    Ya I think once you decided to go after kids, you crossed the line. Parents, especially those who are heavy in religion or traditional values...do not feel that your movement declaring how you like to enjoy sex is appropriate or needed in today's schools. And they will react. Violently if necessary to remove that **** from schools.

    And we are seeing it. And it will only get worse.
     
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    What you stated is what many of us people feel. We have had enough of having the LGBTQ crap waved in our faces and having LGBTQ propaganda fed to our children and grandchildren. You are correct the LGBTQ crowd has been given it’s important “rights”. They got same sex “marriage” federal laws and some state laws against discrimination in hiring , tv shows, tv commercials etc. The LGBTQ gang has received so much yet they still act like pigs at the trough and prove that they will ever be satisfied with their gains.
     
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    I would argue that the vast majority of those mass migrating are not on board with this wave of gay pride. They likely are going to be violently protective over their children and will not be shy about it. And I would support them in how they feel.
     
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    Would you be saying this to a Christian about TX schools replacing mental health professionals with chaplains or putting up religions items in all schools?

    Cheering that people are assaulting them because the state is forcing religious values?

    And you people are upset that gay symbols exist on private spaces — I couldn’t imagine what you would be calling for if this was being forced into schools by the state.
     
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    No. Not at all. But then we've removed religion from public schools. SEXUALITY is not the same as religion. But neither should be in a school. And neither needs the kind of attention pride gets. Parades, a ****ing month dedicated and a god rainbow flag everywhere.

    You are not oppressed. Get over yourself. Your sexuality doesn't deserve the attention we as a society put up with.
     
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    I just showed you two instances where religion is not only not removed from schools but is being actively inserted.

    TX is trying to allow chaplains to replace counselors in public schools and are putting up religious texts in all schools.

    So you wouldn’t be cheering Christian’s being assaulted because of their existence being forced in public schools but you are cheering gay people being assaulted because their existence is allowed in private spaces.

    Yes, or you people will hate crime us. I am sure you are missing the cognitive dissonance here.

    Again, this makes me support it even more. I hope they drape the flag in front of every commercial building the eye can see.

    You will find all of us are not a soft target.
     
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