Ten killed in shooting at Ore. community college

You don't know who the bad guy is before they shoot, unless you're Professor X.

You're also assuming people in uniform are the good guys. Plenty of exceptions where that isn't true I'm afraid.

Maybe the 3% has something to do with these always happening IN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T ALLOWED TO BE ARMED. Funny how the only people following the law in gun free zones are the non-crazies huh?

Not to mention the huff-post is the most liberal trash rag out there and often outright lies.

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Exactly.

 

This (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) loved the IRA and hated Israel...basically a Jeremy Corbyn on steroids

 

The above laughable conclusion, ladies and gentlemen, is why casinos love people who skipped out on math class.

Let's actually look at the numbers and see if the poster's bumper-sticker thinking has any merit:
Less than 4% of Americans have a carry permit. Apparently "3% of incidents" were stopped by people belonging to this tiny subset of the population.

More than 96% of Americans do not have a carry permit. Apparently "13% have been stopped" by people belonging to this overwhelmingly large group.

That's interesting, isn't it? Permit holders are outnumbered more than 25-to-1 by non-permit holders yet non-permit holders only managed to stop a little over 4 times as many shootings. Four-percent of the population managed to stop 3% but the other 96% could only muster 13%?

So, all else being equal, if non-permit holders had as high of a "shootings stopped per capita" rate as permit holders then you'd expect them to have stopped a full 84% of "incidents"...yet they only managed 13%...curious. Or, another way, if permit holders had the same rate as non-permit holders then you'd expect them to have stopped less than one-half of one percent...yet they stopped six times that...again, curious. No matter which way you look at it, the armed civilians come out way ahead.

In conclusion, looking at your numbers alone, an armed American is six times more likely to stop a mass shooting than an unarmed American. In light of that, if you were put in a situation where there was a 100% chance of a mass shooting taking place, and you were given the choice to be accompanied by a friendly armed person or a friendly unarmed person, you'd be a fool to choose the unarmed person.

 

No such thing.

 

Oh look Huff-Post lied again. Who'd have thunk it?

 

The immediate on-line web history of Chris Harper-Mercer shows him to be a mixed-race, angry young man in general alignment with various radical racially aligned groups such as Black Lives Matter, (*)(*)(*)(*) The Police and (*)(*)(*)(*) Yo Flag – all of which carry a sentiment of favorability and ideological alignment with Islam which was similarly evident in the Ferguson protest movement.

Against this backdrop shooting “White” “Christians” makes sense. However, in the course of several hours (one media cycle) – the media narrative is selling a profile of a loner, mentally disturbed individual without any mention of his previous writings (deleted/changed), behaviors (hidden) and social tendencies (ignored).

Why?

Could be the answer lies within the response to the shooting from the White House where President Obama took quickly to the microphones to decry another school shooting without fully understanding the motive and intent.

Mercer’s possible motive and intent would now represent a political embarrassment against the backdrop of Obama’s speech if it aligns with something other than needed.

One has to wonder why suddenly all comments and remarks by Chris Harper-Mercer seems to have evaporated from Social Media. Whatever happened to the reported manifesto he gave to a survivor of the shooting?

 

It might have something to do with the fact that Facebook is now controlled by the white house.

 

For starters, I completely dismiss your flawed opinions on this. The facts prove otherwise.

What has Americans so frightened? Why are they stocking up on guns and ammo?

Scared Americans and “The US Terror State

When did Americans become so AFRAID?

 

So you trump facts with emotion?

 

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In other words, you have no proof or evidence.
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Other than the FBI database, yeah.

And your "facts" are that people "feel scared".

 

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To be fair, you would have to assume nothing, unfortunately your reply is based on an assumption. Produce an article from Fox or any other source and allow me to determine the validity. I deal in facts, not opinions.

 

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Have you read any of the sources I posted? Remember how certain individuals from the right were in a panic over "Jade Helm"?

 

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If crime is supposed to be down, why are certain Americans buying guns and ammo in the vast quantities they are? Does lower crime mean people feel less safe so they have to by more munitions? Nice dichotomy you're in.

 

Yes, in post #633 you quoted post #631 and said you dismissed the FBI statistics on crime, and then referenced some fear monger stuff.

 

It's not "supposed" to be down, it "is" down. Unless of course you're saying that the FBI is making stuff up, which is a conspiracy all in itself.

The reason we are buying guns is not because of fear of crime, it is because of fear of our government. That's not crime, that's tyranny. I don't think the FBI tracks that.

 

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That would be your opinion. I offered proof that Americans are living in fear and because of that are becoming less civilized and you chose to ignore it. Let's take this a step further; 76% Say Americans Becoming More Rude, Less Civilized

 

Right, let's not look at the actual numbers documented by the government, lets look at their emotions on the subject to come to a concrete picture of the situation.

My 9 year old feels she's old enough to drive a car, but thankfully I know that how she feels doesn't matter.

Oh and I wouldn't be so concerned with why citizens are stocking up on ammo, I'd be more concerned why the Department of Homeland Security felt the need to purchase 1.6 BILLION rounds of ammunition for use in the country, along with all the armored vehicles to go with it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbe...ecurity-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/

 

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Again, more of your unsubstantiated opinions. The perception of crime is at an all time high; Crime Is Down, But Americans Are Convinced It's Rising

 

You seem to misunderstand what is fact and what is opinion.

A fact is a database with numbers put into it that clearly shows a trend.

An opinion is something that is the opposite of fact.

My thermostat is at 68 degrees but my wife feels hot. How she feels does not make the room hot, no more than how people feel about crime make it so.

Oh you left an important part of your quote of me out, here I'll put it back in:

"Oh and I wouldn't be so concerned with why citizens are stocking up on ammo, I'd be more concerned why the Department of Homeland Security felt the need to purchase 1.6 BILLION rounds of ammunition for use in the country, along with all the armored vehicles to go with it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbe...ecurity-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/"

 

Its in this very thread.. A very long thread that i participated in from the start unlike you who popped in with your propaganda piece and now want others to prove a negative... Not going to happen.. Begone to 4chan with all your little buddies.

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What that poster is displaying is the typical Progressive nonsense that perception is more important then fact

 

The Morning News:

Mother of shooter is POS.

""""The mother of the rage-filled loner who shot and killed nine people at an Oregon community college blasted opponents of open-carry laws and bragged about her personal arsenal of weapons online, according to reports.

Laurel Harper, a nurse who shared an apartment near the Umpqua Community College campus with her troubled 26-year-old son Chris Harper Mercer, boasted on Facebook that she owned a stockpile of handguns and assault rifles, according to vocativ.com.

“And when the mood strikes, and as long as we’re tossing around brand names, I sling an AR, Tek-9 or AK over my shoulder, or holster a Glock 21 (not 22), or one of my other handguns, like the Sig Sauer P226, and walk out the door,” Harper bragged. “I find the shotguns are a little too cumbersome to open carry.”"""""






OOOOhhhhh , isn't she tough, wow did she ever stop the mass shootings with HER beliefs!!

 

If anything is on the rise it is hype. Statistically these shootings aren't. In the 80's a saying came about, 'going postal', due to shootings in post offices. The focus changes.

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I don't see how your condescension ever stopped any mass shootings.

 

I don't see how a parent stockpiling and promoting guns ever stopped any mass shootings.


(BTW, his mother should be charged as an accessory....)

 

So since your condescension never stopped any mass shootings, you should be charged too.