Ten to fifteen thousand US citizens stranded in Afghanistan. Unbelievable!

what did Trump do to get those people out?

the clock was ticking since Trump agreed to the deal

 

lol more propaganda, it was Trump's immigration plan and was reversed by executive order 2 weeks after Biden took office. I guess he put the brain trust in the wrong spot or maybe the brain trust has dementia.

 

Oh geez.
Ok, so you think Trump should have been showing up daily for work and worked the peace deal while Biden napped in the oval office.

This conversation is getting redundant. You will continue to excuse Biden for anything that goes wrong through his presidency.

 

you seem confused, you want to show us this Trump plan to get the people out of Afghanistan that you think existed

 

I think if Trump makes a deal with terrorists to have people out by May 2021, he should have been working on it and had a plan

and that plan should have been passed to Biden during the peaceful transfer of power

 

No Fresh you've proven your worth here. The constant banter from you is embarrassing. Trump's plan to get people out, Trump hasn't been in office for 8 f'ing months. Your one of the few on the planet that continues to tries to play politics. Let me make this clear for you NOBODY gives a rats ass what Trump's plan was because he wasn't in office, didn't make the call on when to pull out, and certainly didn't make the f'ing call to leave the innocent behind. This is solely done by the Biden's Administration but partisanship ahead of innocent lives, you lefties are sick.

 

Trump had no plan to get people out, is that what you're saying, he agreed to the deal with the terrorists, had no plan and never made a plan?

the deal that gave the Taliban a year to prepare for the take-over of Afghanistan

 

No that's what a partisan hack would say or someone that could relate to the dumb and dumber movie. Most would say Biden's plan is a disaster today, 8 months after he took over. And I pray someone with a half of a brain can somehow get the innocent people out. Now the Deputy secretary of state is telling the Taliban we expect them to let everyone out, good god what a statement after the fact.

 

any plan would be a disaster, it's like letting go of the tail of a tiger after you grabbed it... .which is why Trump kicked the can to Biden

Biden is doing what the last admin failed to do

 

Did I miss the comedy hour sign?

 

you tell me

 

LOL - The "problem" with me holding a grown man responsible for his own actions is that it doesn't agree with your exercise in blame-shifting. However, the only things that really matter here are the facts:

Fact 1) Biden chose to continue with the withdrawal.

Fact 2) Biden is responsible for executing the withdrawal.

Fact 3) Biden was warned by the Pentagon not to do what he chose to do in regard to the logistics of the evacuation.

Fact 4) Up to 20,000 Americans are trapped in Afghanistan.

Here's another fact: I gave Biden credit for taking responsibility for his decision to continue with the withdrawal and I still support his decision. So much for your "Biden is bad" conclusion. However, he failed to execute the withdrawal and 70% of Americans disapprove of his failure, and there goes your "staunch partisan" conclusion, as well. However, based on the numbers, one could conclude that the only people defending Biden's mismanagement of the withdrawal are his staunch partisan supporters.

My logic, which was the same logic that Biden ignored from the Pentagon, would have prevented thousands of Americans from being trapped in Afghanistan against their wills. Biden, on the other hand, fiddled...

More blame-shifting, and things have already gone south, but the fact remains that Joe Biden is responsible for the failure to prevent thousands of Americans from being trapped in Afghanistan against their will. Now, to be fair, if his advisers failed him then they deserve to be held responsible for failing him and the Americans trapped in Afghanistan, too, but that leads us to the question of who is responsible for surrounding himself with incompetent people?

America?

I guess it could be said that the people who put Biden in office are indirectly responsible for cocking this up, but as I pointed out earlier 70% of America disapproves of the way Biden mismanaged this situation. You and others can try to shift the blame from the president's desk, but in the end this fact remains:



PS. By the way, America is a lot more than its bumbling political leaders.

 

This is some funny ass ****. It like the fishing story about the one that got away, the fish keeps getting bigger.

first it was 5000 Americans are trapped, then it was 7000 Americans are trapped, then it was 10,000 Americans are trapped, now we are up to more than 20,000 Americans are trapped

 

As soon as Biden got into office, he worked to reverse everything Trump did during his presidency, but you expect us to be believe that he would have used any plan Trump left to get the people out. I'm not understanding if you're serious or using sarcasm in your arguments. Biden is responsible for what has happened. Point your blame in the right direction.

 

except those darn tariffs that Trump loved so much, idiot Biden has not gotten rid of any of those

 

After reading ALL these posts, I would like to see someone offer up HOW we could have a withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan and what is happening wouldn't happen. No matter who, how or when we pulled out, the Taliban were going to at least attempt to take back over. The Afghan troops laying down so easily may not have been exactly predicted, but honestly, who is surprised!
Whether to stay or not depended on the reasons for staying. We didn't go there to "right all the wrongs" or save the Afghan people from the Taliban. We went there to root out Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, and that seems to have been done a long time ago. I hate to see the Taliban take back over, would prefer to see a more inclusive government in that country, but it is their country and we can't rule the world.
We're seeing exactly why politicians have been kicking that can down the road. Agree or disagree with the move or methods, but most of us agree it had to come sooner or later.
Most of the arguments are partisan based.

 

What's funny if it's 5k or 20k?

 

The real question is why would any number be funny? Even 1 is too much. These democrats sure have a twisted sense of humor

 

what is funny is how you people keep making the number higher and higher so you have something to fuel your righteous indignation.

so far there are no reports of a single American being denied entry to the airport, at least none that I have seen.

 

Oh the Taliban would've taken over but we could've easily got our Americans, allies, humanitarian workers out with troops. Instead we shut down our embassy, made sure our military got out safely and told the nonmilitary people that your on your own to go through Taliban check points to get to the airport.

 

Well CBS says 10k, NYT says 15k, Fox up to 20k. Who knows and who cares it's way way way to many.

 

First of all, the Globalists control most of the media in the US, so the be-headings of a few US citizens that took place a few days ago doesn't exist in the minds of the public.

Second, Biden changed the plan. The Logistics support for the Afghan military was pulled almost as soon as Biden was sworn in.

What appears to be a Biden blunder was actually a planned and staged disaster.

 

I think the whole thing is being overblown by the media so they have a catchy headline.

Again, I have not heard nor read a single story about an American (or any foreigner) being harmed or blocked from getting to the airport to leave.

Maybe it is happening and we are just not hearing about it, but I find that hard to believe

 

You have that on the "authority" of an anonymous Defense official speaking to The New Duranty Times.

 

The New Duranty Times is a RW publication?