Texas Governor Greg Abbott Ends Statewide Mask Mandate, Opens State 100%

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    sec Well-Known Member

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    that's one heck of a virus that made it out of the lab
     
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    So, to be clear... if you make a rule restricting any kind of nudity or lewd act, you are a murderer if you don't require masks?
     
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    There is one person in my extended circle. It was the mom of a friend. She was extremely over-weight, had advanced COPD ... and was 86 years old. Yet mostly women in my extended circle are terrified and willing to get into cattle cars and be taken to the showers if that is what dear leader tells them they need to do. And they're willing to make you do so as well.
     
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    I know a hundred and fifty thousand people died of it in the UK, but I don't know a hundred and fifty thousand people. ;)
     
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    Did you know any of the 150k people? Personally? If so, tell us about them/that single individual. Would they have wanted the global economy shut down?
     
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    No I didn't know any of them personally, but they died anyway despite that.

    Did they want the global economy shut down?, some would have some would not. Most were very old and retired, safe from economic storms.
    But I cannot speak for them, most folks I've spoken to want both to protect friends and family from dying and to keep the economy open. Which is ofcourse impossible.
    You conflate two scenarios and as a metaphor its doesn't work.
    Beloved leaders do not send you to the gas chambers.
    Unbeloved leaders do, but people do not willingly get into the cattle trucks.
     
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    People have willingly stood in line to be injected with dangerous experimental drugs. What is the difference between that and boarding cattle trucks? NONE
     
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    Say WHUT??
     
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    I guess it's a matter of perspective. Here in Florida about half the population has been jabbed. They have clamored to be injected with dangerous experimental drugs to supposedly protect them from a virus with a 99% survival rate. They have done that even though there are 2 excellent cures for the viral infection, though I do acknowledge that few people understand (or care) that there is a cure for the disease.

    I don't see much difference between climbing into the cattle car and taking a dangerous drug when there is no need to, but that's just me.
     
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    That is an amazing concession. To have a pandemic so horrifying that we were to have a 2 week lock down to flatten the curve... and it went on for over a year... and you personally do not know a single person in your extended circle to have died of it.


    We saw the unConstitutional changing of laws that got a senile political whore instated as POTUS, even though he could not fill a phone booth with supporters the few times he ventured out of his basement to campaign.
    We saw an economy that transferred trillions to the super wealthy while small businesses were shuttered, many if not most, to be closed forever.
    Suicides, death from obesity and alcoholism. Children perhaps forever scarred by the loss of community, shut in rather than attending public school.
    All this, and you don't personally know anyone that has died from this thing? Some plague.

    It is easier to con a man than to convince him he has been conned.

    ITMT: I do have a number of people in my circle that got covid. They were mostly younger people. Most had virtually no symptoms. I'm told it felt very odd to not be able to taste things for a day or two. One realized he had it when eating ultra hot buffalo wings at a pub, only to realize he couldn't taste them.

    Not worth shutting down, or a jab for anyone but the most vulnerable old people.

    You go Texas!
     
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    There is a difference.
     
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    As I've said, it's a matter of one's perspective.

    Lemmings running off a cliff and humans standing in line to board cattle cars or be injected with dangerous drugs are all manifestations of the same sort of mindset.

    Yes Virginia, men go mad in herds.
     
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    The people who got the shots went on with their lives. Those who were put into cattle cars, not so much. To equivocate the two demonstrates a disconnect from human history.
     
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    I know of two who've taken the shot and gone on to die.

    In one recent NON GOVERNMENT study of recipients of the injections showed, among other things, of 107 women who took the shots during their first trimester of pregnancy, 96 of them miscarried.

    This has nothing to do with history, but everything to do with current events.
     
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    Then why did you use a holocaust analogy, shock value? I'll tell you up front that I don't believe your horror stories. Nobody that I know of locally has died from complications from the shot, this BS is propaganda worthy of being a Fauchi story.
     
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    No. Only you believe that. They queued up to have a proven vaccine.
     
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    That was not your question. Your specification was someone I not only knew but was close enough to ask their opinion before they died.
    I know 4 people who died of it. Many of our friends work for the NHS and they relate very many sad stories.
    What's more 92% of those who died were over 75,so I would not really know them as most of us have friends of a similar age.
    Further you fail to link the fact of the lock down with the lack of deaths.
     
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    and were these people you know over 75?
     
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    No, these were young people who should not have been locked down. Should not have been shamed for partying out doors so they might get laid, fall in love, get married, have babies and build a future for this society. The ones I know lost a sense of taste for a day or two. You don't run for the hills in such matters. And it isn't 75. That we shut down our society for 75 year olds would be bad enough. The median age of COVID death is 80. Just a disgrace that what we allowed to happen to our young over this.
     
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    And spread the virus to the vulnerable older people? Would you be happy with that?
    As regards age, its a slope. I chose 75 as a start point, 80 is another. We both agree it affected the old.
     
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    I don't expect you to believe what I've said.

    I've known for months you believe only what the authorities and media tell you to believe.

    But we agree that 96 out of 102 miscarrying does have shock value. Unpleasant truths usually shock hell out of most people. That's why so many avoid having to confront the truth.
     
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    You live in a fantasy land. The shots were issued under Emergency Use Authorization. Have you considered the meanings of those words?

    They queued up to participate in an experiment, and it shows. They queued up to support their fealty to pharma and authority. They queued up to demonstrate herd stupidity, willing to die to "be protected" from a virus with a 99% survival rate.
     
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    Whilst you sat at home taking part in your own experiment to see if the virus would get you or not.
    And where does your 99% survival rate come from (based on what figures)
     
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    Yes I did, and I'm happy that my immune system prevailed. I was exposed to it early on but managed to defeat it. Half the people I know caught it, but nobody died.
     
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    Unpleasant as that miscarriage story may be I don't believe it to be the truth. If we look at areas where the vaccine has not been available they have a lot of graves and they aren't from miscarriages.
     

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