The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

At last, you're catching on.

No matter his age he's a lying violent, thug.

 

No purpose? Try to keep up.

The purpose was to beat the Russians in the space race.

The US can't stand not being number 1, and they'll do anything it takes to get there. Kill, lie, cheat: they don't care.

 

Here's a thought.


IF we actually went to the moon at the time, why on earth did they not pack that shuttle will all sorts of rocks, moondust,moon water, moon trees..lol...whatever, so we could have some serious, dedicated,unbiased and non-government scientists test the findings in labs and turn it over to the public for disclosure and vieiwng like a Museum? and I'm not talking about a NASA Museum either. maybe a space museum run by the city it's in. unbiased to NASA.

because we spend billions going up there to this very day.

where's the payoff Moonies?

 

How you muster the stomach to deal with these people is beyond me.

 

The same reason Barry avoided all of his campaign promises. A dirt nap is not a good nap.Ask JFK and Paul Wellstone.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdUsJHeVXiE"]John F Kennedy Secret Society Speech - YouTube[/ame]

 

Of the hundreds of companies involved in space program from the engines to the crapper, and thousands of people across American that were involved in the process, not one has said it was faked.

Also, you can see our crap up there if you have a good enough telescope.

 

Oh yeah, that picture proves everything! LOL





(Pssst: I think I see Elvis in that pic too)

 

There you have it folks - the standard of debate of the last few Apollo deniers/trolls.

Masterdebaters, one might say..


Don't encourage them. It's over. The expansively-voiced lady has sung.

And as you can see from the last few pages, they simply have nothing left but ill-directed smarm.

 

Go back and read post #5.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-...n-missions-were-faked-studio.html#post3989732

I don't know about that. Look at this article and tell us what you think.
http://calgary.rasc.ca/moonscope.htm#arethere

 

Horse Sheet!

 

So you're saying that if an Astronaut spoke up, "they", "it", "them", "all of them", "they are", would kill them? Ahh... I'm buying more Alcoa stock.

 

YES

 

You just can't stop playing 'cute', can you?

 

IU'm catching onto your madness...

Bullsheet, he's a national hero who finally had enough of you hoaxer insects crap

 

And the Russians never caught onto this 'hoax'?.... PT barnum was right,as it applies to the moon hoaxers

And it's also true as a whole,you aren't wrapped too tight

 

I dealt with that issue in post #1. Here's the info.

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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=moonfaker+cold+war&aq=f

http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
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Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
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http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
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The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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Noam Chomsky's analysis of the cold war-
http://www3.niu.edu/~td0raf1/history468/apr2304.htm
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On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
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And you never will, it seems. Could be because the facts don't support your intense desire to be one of the few who know da truth™.

 

I see your "debating" tactics haven't changed since I've been away! Reposting an identical post as a means to answer something, whilst deliberately evading the original reply I made to it.

In view of the fact that you have not answered it, here is the concise rebuttal I offered to your "wall of spam":-

From this post

I would also add, that since your post, I have discovered videos from Chomsky whereby he contradicts your other "pet-theory" about the 911 terrorist attack. Perhaps you need to drop his testimony as a means to support your convoluted idea of reality?

 

Actually all you did was make up a bunch of plausible sounding lies and claimed it to be true,that way you have an answer for everything

 

I love how a good amount of you are jumping to the conclusion that none of this happened with un-substantial evidence. You should probably look into the facts more before jumping to conclusions.

 

Betamax, you destroyed your credibility on page 5 when you said the Chinese spaceswalk was real.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-...missions-were-faked-studio-5.html#post4105095

Here's the part where you tried to obfuscate the fact that some of the safety cables were buoyant.
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-2.html
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The tethers have shape memory caused by them being wound on drums during manufacture. The only tendency the cable has in an unrestricted vacuum is to assume that curled position from being wound around a large drum. There are numerous examples where it makes this same movement in a horizontal vector in relation to the camera. Bunkum.
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You didn't even put the link to the video in your blog so people could see for themselves because you know this just isn't so. The cables only move upwards when it's exactly consistent with their being buoyant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM

Watch it at these time marks.
0:50, 2:10, 3:00, 3:10, 6:08, 6:44, 6:53

The buoyant cable is the thicker one. It's not the thinner one. There's obviously no horizontal movement of the cable as you say there is. If "Shape memory" were the cause of the movement, the cable wouldn't only move when it's consistent with its being buoyant and in water. This is simply too clear to obfuscate and the fact that you tried to obfuscate it totally discredits you.

 

Having you as my judge and jury, with the criteria for my credibility being your "Chinese Spacewalk was faked test" is rather like Dracula being in charge of the blood bank. Epic fail. You are using an ad-hominem to avoid addressing the numerous posts and observations I have made, as though your opinion on an alternate conspiracy theory, carries enough weight for you to draw credibility from believing it. Quite breathtakingly ignorant.

The maker of your film, firmly believes that the Apollo Moon missions were most certainly not faked, so by my reckoning, your credibility test is not worth the hundreds of forums and youtube comment sections it is spammed upon. From simple observation of your standard forum behaviour, it is patently obvious that you have no interest in debate, but are here merely to scatterbomb your opinion.

One of the most astonishing things I've seen from you, is your stubborn refusal to admit that the small piece of debris moving across the astronauts helmet, is actually not a bubble. It is just woefully ignorant for you to maintain that you think this is a bubble, when you can see quite clearly, that the shape of it is flat as it rotates.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCfzhoeHABQ"]Does anybody think this is a bubble? - YouTube[/ame]

As for the cable, you are not in a position to tell me something behaves like it would in water, when it is the most absurd notion imaginable that the Chinese would fake a simple spacewalk in an underwater environment. What you deem "consistent" always appears to be used from a position where the opposite is true.

Wave blowers are used in water parks and aquariums, with their only reference pertaining to their use in neutral buoyancy being those also related to your hoax video! Perhaps you could cite me a reference for their use, related to providing neutral buoyancy?

 

You didn't addresss the actual issue.

Here's what you said.
http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-2.html
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The tethers have shape memory caused by them being wound on drums during manufacture. The only tendency the cable has in an unrestricted vacuum is to assume that curled position from being wound around a large drum. There are numerous examples where it makes this same movement in a horizontal vector in relation to the camera. Bunkum.
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Anyone who actually looks at the footage will see that the thick cable only moves when it's entirely consistent with their being buoyant in water.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=gMxQEHfU6hM
Watch it at these time marks.
0:50, 2:10, 3:00, 3:10, 6:08, 6:44, 6:53

There are no examples where it makes this same movement in a horizontal vector in relation to the camera as you claim. Your rhetorical post will sway a few viewers who don't take the time to click on the link and see for themselves but those who look at the footage will see that you don't even believe your own arguments.

Why don't you post that video on your blog where you made that claim? Is it because it belies what you claim?

 

Are you kidding me? The first timestamp you make at 0:50, during the few seconds after, the cable slides to the left with no resistance. At 3:26 it actually goes downwards! There are many more instances that I care not to list. The curved nature of a wound cable during its manufacture, allows it, free of any gravitational downforce, to assume its natural shape.

Making your claim repeatedly is not a means to prove your case. I suggest you look more closely at the whole EVA with less bias.

No, it's because it didn't occur to me. Now included at the top of the page.

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-1.html


Now answer the rest of my post. The bubble that is clearly space debris, and a citation for the use of wave blowers in a neutral buoyancy capacity.


Edit:- Here are parts one and two (of at least 7 videos) of the whole footage, showing hundreds of weightless references, no bubbles and motion totally consistent with space.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W8U1KMm7Gc"]LIVE 神舟七号出舱 翟志刚 太空行走 ShenzhouVII Space Walk ★part 1★ - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZNCMp20ELI"]LIVE 神舟七号出舱 翟志刚 太空行走 ShenzhouVII Space Walk ★part 2★ - YouTube[/ame]

 

Those that doubt the moon landings lack a basic understanding. It is the understanding that they fail to understand pretty much everything.

Beyond all of the other concrete evidence; the Russians would have never went along with it. Any counter argument to that one undisputed fact reflects that failure of understanding and a sheer naivety of the cold war.