The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

The internet is truly grand, isn't it? Where else can you end up 'debating' a wild-eyed kook? If we could see and speak to the posters in person, it would clear so much up in so little time..

 

[video=youtube_share;ciW3Afw9iSk]http://youtu.be/ciW3Afw9iSk[/video]

 

OP (excerpt)

And (C) if someone in the know, and with any influence or public credibility was dumb enough to spill the beans, that 'someone' would first be publicly ridiculed, then be sacked with extreme prejudice and never find another job - lucrative or otherwise - for the rest of their lives. Hell hath no fury like NASA exposed. Sorry you gullible geeks, you've been taken for a ride - a big BIG ride - but you shouldn't shoot the messenger.

 

Wrong.

If it were faked then thousands would have known including many who did not work for NASA or even the US government.

It could not have been faked

 

Thanks cerberus. It's nice to see something positive for a change.


In post #2 there's a link to an important article that is now dead.
http://www.buzzcreek.com/grade-a/MOON/articles1.htm

Here's a link to where I posted a copy of the article.
http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=26317.0

I wish I could edit past posts but I can't, so I have to post the corrections later in the thread.

 

You are a complete disgrace. Yet again you spam the same article ignoring the major lie it concludes with!

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=195797&page=19&p=1065388088#post1065388088

That last paragraph is provably a lie. From Florida, Saturn V downrange paths, followed ground tracks that formed a 30 degree inclined orbit. There is no possible way to go through the heart of the belts when leaving orbit at that inclination. The trans lunar injection routes all traversed the areas on the very outside of the belts, where flux density is hundreds of times less than the dangerous central region.

Your refusal to comment on this speaks volumes about your motives. As with every single thing you post, whenever you are shown to be wrong, it all becomes "moot" because of the other spam about Apollo 15 and a flag.

 

What a crock. The media frenzy that surrounds scandals would be so big in this case it would sell newspapers for a year. People cannot keep secrets. Those involved would also tell friends who would have no problem going to the newspapers with the story of the millennium.

I laugh at the suggestion that this immense multi mission venture could be carried out secretly as a hoax by just a few people. Tens of thousands would need to be involved, with the major contractors all building equipment fit for purpose.

http://www.clavius.org/scale.html

I anticipate the resident spammer will fire an ad hominem rather than read and address the points made.

 

I keep posting this info on how the press and science journals are owned and would not report the scandal.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597

You people keep ignoring it so I have to keep posting it. The fact that you maintain that the press would report a big government scandal pretty much discredits you.

I've posted this before but it looks like I'll have to post it again.

http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/27709
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Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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Clavius is famous for dishonesty. I've posted this before but it looks like I'll have to post it again.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=125628

Some of the links in the above thread are dead. The live ones can be found here.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=147&p=7712820&viewfull=1#post7712820

This is about Jay Windley's* analysis of the dust-free sand issue.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8135606&postcount=7907
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8144391&postcount=7990
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251326

You agreed with Jay Windley; that's another thing that totally discredits you.

How do you know that craft have really gone through the belts and all the way to the moon. Do you just believe what you read? You're not in a position to know for sure. All we have to go on is the footage and still pictures which are full of anomalies which show the footage and still pictures were taken in a studio (see page #1). Whether they could have gone through the heart of the belts is a moot issue; it doesn't make the anomalies go away.

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http://www.clavius.org/about.html

 

So no deathbed confessions,from people with nothing to lose by 'infuriating' NASA,has no bearing on things?


Also,no proof exists that NASA would be that vindictive

So no one is metaphorically 'shooting' the messenger,more like putting it out of it's misery

 

There you go ignoring the info I just posted on the media. I'd post the link here again but you'd probably accuse me of spamming. Click on the link in my last post that goes to the info on the media and science journals. If you don't agree with it, say why.

I don't know how many times I've posted that info and you people keep talking as it the press always told the truth and reported on any scandal it could find.

 

Quit throwing out red herrings disguised as spam...the media and science journals have nothing to do with a deathbead confession.......


What's more,you haven't shown any proof that the media,OR science journals have been complicit in any cover-up,other than they run contrary to your fabrications

 

That's like saying that the only reason the press does not run stories about Bigfoot is because they want to A) Hide the existence of Bigfoot, or B) They are too lazy
to run stories about Bigfoot ...

Yet, 30% of Americans believe Bigfoot is real. And the only reason the other 70% don't believe in Bigfoot is because the press wants to hide Bigfoot.

 

I love your contradiction. You claim out of one side of your mouth that they would have been compartmentalized so only very few would have to know of the hoax (which of course means they would be building equipment capable of going to the Moon, so why not use it?) and claim out of the other side of your mouth that there is "secret" radiation data that is only given to those who need it, never mind the fact they would amount to THOUSANDS of people and there is no evidence there is multiple sets of data. Good for humor though!

Do the words "poisoning the well" mean anything to you? You really love your logical fallacies, don't you?
Your thread maligns the apollohoax.net FORUM which is only loosely connected with the clavius site. Clavius.org does not have a forum, a fact you've ignored MANY times before. You can't dismiss an entire site based on SUBJECTIVE behavior of those populating a separate forum. That is the logical fallacy of guilt by association. Similarly you can't dismiss an entire site based on your personal feelings about the person that runs it. Attack the information, not the person. Gee, you really love those logical fallacies, don't you?

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Hilarious that you think the media in the ENTIRE WORLD could be controlled, or that something posted in another country would not make it onto the internet. You can spam your links about supposedly controlled media all you want but the simple fact that YOU know that some things weren't reported means they weren't completely suppressed.

 

A closed mind cannot be changed, as my old nanny used to say whilst dandling me on her knee!

 

There is something very disturbing about somebody who has a flowchart response to every debunk, by cutting and pasting the same posts over and over. I am becoming more and more convinced that you have some sort of financial angle going on and need to maintain interest in these idiotic conspiracy claims.

Nothing you just posted can be classified as "info". It is diversionary opinion, obfuscation and hopelessly inaccurate. Your post about scientists is using a few isolated incidents and proclaiming that proves widespread corruption. It is a stupid claim.

You post this wall of crap about space radiation without understanding it and have no intention of debating it. Always we get the "it's a moot point" hogwash. The anomalies you keep referring to have been totally debunked hundreds of times, including your number one spam item. You have nothing to support your claim. Every time I ask about how air moves at such a distance, you run away.

 

The brain falls out of an open mind.

You should pick yours up and use it

 

No they haven't. Pro-Apollo posters have tried to obfuscate them and then they just considered them to have been debunked. Viewers should check out the info and decide for themselves and not be swayed by rhetoric.
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/347662-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-studio.html
http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html

Hey viewers - be sure to check out post #12 of the second above thread.

 

Yes they have been debunked which you can only repeat your posting of them while they get shredded again

 

I've been reading these moon hoax threads for a while now.

The method of overwhelming readers with dozens of links and videos, leading them into a jungle of wild claims and alleged evidence in the hope that they get tired and just agree with you before they find out that the end of the trail just leads them back to the starting point, reminds me a lot of a pyramid scheme.

 

When starting a thread such as this it's a good idea to put all the important info on page #1. If it's scattered throughout the thread, a lot of it won't get seen by a certain percentage of viewers which is what the pro-Apollo posters want. If it's all on the first page, they can't bury it.

That's your opinion. People can look at the evidence and judge for themselves.

I don't consider them to be wild claims. I think it's conclusive proof that the footage that NASA made public was taken in a studio.

 

It doesn't bother you that every single point has been soundly trashed. You have some vested interest in this.

http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/

Looks like you are getting your useless butt kicked again at the DebatePolitics forum. That's what happens when you spam and report back to your basketball thread, everyone sees you getting busted.

 

That's funny. That's not what I see when I look at their posts. I just see lame attempts at obfuscateion. People can look at it and decide for themselves.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy-theories/234139-more-lies-nasa-14.html

 

You have no answer to the post. This is the same position as I have taken all along, and here you are afraid to be wrong yet again. Air is the only theory that can easily be dismissed due to it being impossible.

 

Like I've said, you've fallen for it hook, line and sinker but there's no need to beat yourself up over it because you're not alone - the entire population of the planet is with you. It's me and Scott who are alone. I'm working on my brother-in-law though, so it could soon be three of us!

Question: Do you seriously believe there's a machine on the surface of Mars?

 

red herring alert.