The ark and a world wide flood.

That’s not how this forum works (which is why your previous post one the subject was removed). If you’re starting a thread your OP needs to contain the full basis of discussion. It can be a starting point for a wider discussion but your single statement “header” isn’t sufficient. Nobody can make any kind of serious response without anything to base it on which leads to a disruptive thread or no replies at all.

 

Which one?

135x350 miles is pretty big to people who have no means of transportation other than their feet.

 

Exactly.. The floods of the Euphrates River basin are recorded by the Babylonians long before the Hebrews.. and its a great story. That's why the Jews borrowed it for their history.

 

People today look at the world - and can see the world - from the outside looking in..... People don't understand what would be a "super flood" to us today would be looked at as people (of that time) that only can walk (3,000-5,000 years ago) as a catastrophe of biblical proportions....

Was it an act of God? well that is a matter of faith, however put yourself in their shoes.... Imagine if a river turned into Lake Michigan - that would be pretty significant.

 

Exactly.... The ark was actually a river barge that hauled grain, beer and livestock downriver.

 

Maybe.... Perhaps Noah just loaded up his stuff on a boat......

Like I said tho..... Put yourself in his shoes...

Also the whole "every animal on Earth" stuff is funny because there weren't that many known animals at that time in that region... So the whole "loaded boat" theory goes out the window....

I believe in God, but I think the "debunkers" are disingenuous....

 

Apparently "Noah's" real name was King Ziusudra of Sumer.

 

Well yes, and no. I have no doubt that there was some type of flood in the Middle East in antiquity. There was no worldwide flood that covered Mt. Everest (or at the least Mt Ararat) after 40 days and nights of rain. The evidence is not there for such a thing.

 

A year is a short period of time, considering eternity. So you don't think God would be powerful enough to sustain an ark full of creatures for 1 year?

 

Meaning only things on the ark survived? The one that covered all but the highest mountain. The whole earth under water?

 

Because he didn't have anyone write that down in the bible. Just the flood.

 

#14. Noah is commanded to gather 7 pairs of clean animals OR only 2 of each animal? (Gen 7:2 vs Gen 6:19-20, 7:8, 7:16)

#15. The flood lasts for 40 days and 40 nights OR 150 days? (Gen 7:4, 7:12, 8:6 vs Gen 7:24, 8:3)

#16. The flood starts 7 days after Noah enters the ark OR on the day Noah enters the ark? (Gen 7:7, 10 vs Gen 7:11-13)

#17. The flood is caused by rain OR the waters above and below the earth are unbound? (Gen 7:4, 7:12 vs Gen 7:11, 8:2)

#18. Noah lets out from the ark a series of doves (three) OR a raven once? (Gen 8:8-12 vs Gen 8:7)

 

I've never been comfortable with time measurement.....

However I can tell you - 40 days of rain can INDEED flood an area terribly, I have experienced it first hand.... Not 40 days but perhaps 3 days can cause a massive flood...

Trust me, I grew up next to a river and a few days of rain or snow melt would make it rise 10 feet.....

10 days of rain would be catastrophic even where I'm at...... Where you think water goes? it doesn't matter if it ends up in the sewer or river - you get enough water at one time you're in serious trouble.

After a few days of rain I have seen lakes and rivers around me rise 10-15 feet...

 

I mean Noah took animals he knew of, or perhaps were important to him...

I mean even today there are probably..... Who knows how many animals we haven't even discovered....

How can someone take an animal he doesn't even know exists?

"Two of every animal on Earth" is pretty objective, for Noah at least...

 

The story is fiction.. Its a teaching narrative.

 

No responsible American can take the Bible literally. The excuse of poverty and lack of resources is not permitted for Americans given the amount of access to information most Americans have.

If you take the Bible literally, it is because you want to - not because you really believe it's logical.

 

this is what really happened, there was a local flood and that became the basis of the later flood myth, that later the Abrahamic religions adopted from previous myths

 

Believe whatever you like, the narrative fits within the geological records...

 

Says who?

It was clearly documented, well like I said in a previous post you can call it nature or God but that is your call.

 

There is absolutely NO geological evidence for a worldwide flood.. NONE.

All the stories are borrowed from earlier civilizations. The Ten Commandments.. or all but one of them.. were borrowed from the Hammurabi Code and the Egyptian Book of the Dead.

During and after the Babylonian exile the Jews began writing Leviticus and Deuteronomy followed by Genesis and Exodus to create a history for themselves.. This was in response to the grandeur and rich heritage of the Babylonians.

They really shouldn't be taken literally as if they were science or history because they are didactic literature.

 

So you're a Flat Earther Too.
Just 6000 years ago the earth was flat!
And of course your post is a Fabrication/Goofy Lie.
You don't/can't even argue in good faith.
[Even] you must know that your posts are preposterous. So bad that I suspect one day you will just post the punch line...
that "you were just spoofing us".

Now look what [else] you've done.
Because you have a Jewish handle, you've attracted Margot2 into the science section to object.

 

Exactly. There are a few reasons for the teaching of Noah's ark. One is that 40 days/nights is an important time period symbolically. Another is that the flood represents baptism.

 

Many who take the flood story literally believe that the earth was flat and the mountains only popped up after the deluge.

 

in what previous religion was it clearly documented, someone made it up long long after the alleged flood

 

Who says its not scientific? Just because it linked to another creationist site doesn't mean it's not true. Show why it's not true.