its an interesting turn, ASALA has been a sleeping organisation for over 20 years http://www.todayszaman.com/news-290032-armenian-terrorist-group-threatens-turkey-over-syria.html
i dont think they have a choice , Anti Kurdish and anti Armenian agenda the only 2 things which unite Turks today ps
And that explains the ATC's lobbying efforts in the US how? I'll be honest with you. I could care less about the Armenian genocide from almost a 100 years ago, or about their current oppression of the Kurd's, but that nuclear and advanced weapons black market located in the black sea area of Turkey ran by the ATC, AIPAC, and the CIA is a different story completely.
I have been saying all along that Turkey destroyed Syria for its own self serving reasons by arousing the Turkoman population in Homs. Erdogan and Devotoglu have become a threat to all their neighboring countries. An Iranian newspaper said that Devotoglu is trying to unite all the Turkic people throughout the region and having them question their borders. When Devotoglu visited Albania, PM Berisha said in a speech that the Albanian border extends into nations such as Greece and Macedonia. There is an upsurge of Albanian nationalism, and Turkey has now formed a military alliance with Albania. In addition to that, Berisha now calls the Albanian guests in Greece, an Albanian minority, while at the same time persecuting the Greeks living in the part of Albania which had always been a part of Greece. Of everything Erdogan says, what would be the most laughable if it wasn't so ominous, is that there once was a large population of Muslims in Europe who were ethnically cleansed and all the mosques destroyed. Devotoglu also visited Azerbajian, and has now formed a military alliance with them which threatens Armenia. In addition to that, Turkey has been meddling in Iraq and arousing the Sunnis so that a break up might be imminent. They have been reprimanded strongly by Clinton for pushing Baghdad towards Iran. Greece is preparing for an invasion by Turkey when it declares its EEP. Two days ago a Turkish helicopter managed to fly over one of the islands during a storm, before it was seen and chased away by Greek jets. What is amazing with Erdogan and Devotoglu are the lies. Whenever they commit aggressive acts, they precede it with lies and making false accusations towards the other country. ..something reminiscent of Adolph Hitler. Erdogan complained to Greece about Kurdish terrorist camps in certain vicinities, when there are no camps. Erdogan also mentioned a Turkish minority in the Dodacanese islands during a speech in Egypt, when there are no Turks on the Dodecanese...and I could go on and on.
i m sure that you are right here, actually looks like AKp does not know what do with Syria , of course AKp mast pay back for huge wahhabi investments in Turkish economy but the risks are very high in this game so they are in a very difficult situation ... links?
Here's the link: "...Greek Foreign Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos canceled a trip to Albania after that countrys Prime Minister Sali Berisha referred to a greater Albania including areas that belong to Greece, ahead of celebrations to mark the centenary of the Balkan countrys independence. Avramopoulos had been due to fly to Tirana on Nov. 28 to join the events. Such statements do not contribute to the creation of an atmosphere of friendship, trust and good neighborliness, said the Foreign Ministry in Athens..." http://greece.greekreporter.com/2012/11/28/avramopoulos-cancels-albania-trip-over-flap/ What is worse, is that Greece wanted to come to an agreement with Albania over the sea rights in the Ionian Sea, but after Devotoglus visit, Albania refused to agree to anything. This happened with Libya as well after Devotoglus visit, when Greece tried to make an agreement about the sea rights below Crete.
This is the response from the U.S. to Barishas remarks: Message-warning sent to Albania by the U.S. representative to the State Department, which in a statement said that any change of borders in the Balkans "would be counterproductive and destabilizing."
you have to send valentine card to Washington, Albania is not a county its a joke. Balkans Paria, worst then others. by any means , its the most criminal, poorest and the only one in the whole continent muslim country . and this county/nation Washington rewarded with extra territory? ...by logic its Slovenia should get en extra land not those guys. ps maybe its time for you guys to make peace with Macedonia?
its a very soft response form Washington, the Democrats have old friendship with the Albanians criminal organizations
From what I gathered, the signing of the gas line called TAP which will be sending gas through Greece, Albania to Italy, was to be used by Greece to pressure Albania to come to an agreement on the EEP in the Ionian Sea. Of course the U.S. pressured Greece to sign TAP so the situation over the oil and gas rights in the Ionian sea with Albania remains unresolved. The problem with Fyrom, (Macedonia) is that it refuses to modify the name Macedonia into something like Slavic Macedonia, or Upper Macedonia. ..which Greece is willing to accept. Fyrom has no more relationship to ancient Macedonia than Iran does, but by using the name, (which was given to them by Tito), and having it accepted as the ancient Macedonia, they can eventually lay claim to the Greek city of Thessaloniki. Fyrom had actually made posters at one time with pictures of Thessaloniki on them, as well as using the symbol of ancient Macedonia on their flag. The Skopjians, (that is their original name), have made themselves the laughing stock of Europe by claiming a heritage which they have no right to claim. They call themselves the original Macedonians, and refuse to accept that Alexander the Great spoke Greek while they speak a Slavo/Bulgarian language. The Slavs and the Bulgarians came into the area seven to eight hundred years after Alexander the Great, but they pretend that history is all a Greek fabrication and keep trying to prove he did not speak Greek when all the European scholars know he did. Prince Phillips palace and tomb is in Northern Greece in the province rightfully named Macedonia. The Skopjians have gone so far as to make an enormous statue of Alexander. They use the Macedonian symbol on their flag, and have even named their airport after him. I find it a pity when people lack pride in what they are, I mean everyone should have some pride. If they are Bulgarians, then why not accept it. If they are Serbians, then why not accept it. Do they think the Macedonians are above them? Why? Because they were warriors and went around conquering and killing? It doesn't say much for them now does it? I mean they even have videos with dance troops wearing ancient Macedonian dances and doing Greek dances...which they believe are Macedonian. If Alexander has always been glorified, it's only because his conquests brought about the Hellenic world, and its the Hellenic minds that defined and formulated Christian beliefs. Other than that he has no importance. ..except maybe to the gays, another nutty group who wants to spin history to whatever suits them.
i hope that you guys one day will grown up and understand that there is more impotent issue then a name ...
You don't get it! Let me explain it to you this way. What if a Northern province in Mexico began calling itself Texas, and began showing pictures of the Alamo on their travel posters? Or better yet, what if part of Russia called itself Ukraine and began showing monuments in Kiev on its travel posters. It would be pretty worrisome for the Ukrainians wouldn't it? When Tito gave the name Macedonia to the Skopjians, he did it with the hope of claiming northern Greece and the city of Thessaloniki. Tito was the one that also gave the go ahead to the Albanians to settle in Kosovo and you see what happened there. The Serbs are now gone, as well as one hundred and fifty ancient churches and monasteries.
i get it, i know all Greece arguments and i dont buy it. Macedonia has a point but this dispute can cost them too much. they switch flags, name couple of times already... funny and tragic reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute what we all know that only united Greco-Balkan front will keep Ottomans away
I agree with you there, and as soon as the pseudo Macedonians realize that their greatest threats are the Turko/Albanians next to them, they might settle for a name. What's wrong with the name Northern Macedonia, or Slavic Macedonia? Fyrom is having a lot of internal problems though, and it could be from the Muslims who want to unite with Albania. I'm just guessing here, I don't really know, but I do know that Devotoglu has been arousing the Ottoman remnants in the Caucasus, Middle East, Far East and Balkans for their own self serving reasons. In the end Fyrom might just be divided between Albania, Bulgaria, and Serbia.
i dont think that there is any other way just accept name then "Republic of Macedonia" more then 133 use "Republic of Macedonia" in bilateral diplomatic relations. i have question, why its so sensitive question for Greece , not talking about history , archaeology, languages, etc. is has to something with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic-speakers_of_Greek_Macedonia? do you really think that "Republic of Macedonia" wants to chap-chap parts of your country? i dont think so ...
If Greece is decent enough to let the Skopjians use the name Northern Macedonia or Slavic Macedonia when they have no relationship what-so-ever to the Greek Macedonians, and when their territory is no more part of ancient Macedonia than Iran or Egypt, ( after all Alexander's army travelled there as well), then why aren't they willing to accept the name? The only answer is because they have territorial ambitions towards the city of Thessaloniki and Northern Greece. In order to claim the province of Macedonia in Greece with its city of Thessaloniki, the world has to be made to believe that their pseudo Macedonia and the true Macedonia in Greece were all part of the same ancient kingdom...which they never were. Never underestimate the expansionist ambitions of Islam, after all they managed to take Kosovo from Serbia through their lies and propaganda. Today the Albanians are referring to the Albanian Muslims who are guests in Greece as a minority, and are trying to get the Muslims who left Northern Greece under an international treaty, to be brought back to Greece. If Greece was to accept the pseudo name 'Republic of Macedonia', it would be committing national suicide, and it has no intention to do so. Better that pseudo country breaks up since it should never have existed in the first place, after all most of them are Slavo/Bulgarians. Albania, Serbia and Bulgaria are willing to absorb them. Besides when Kissinger was asked about it, (and believe me he has no love for Greece) he said Greece has every right to object because he knows his history. Also those nations that have accepted the name 'Republic of Macedonia' when it is not their legal name, are no doubt predominantly Islamic nations, so you have to question why they are so willing to accept it?
