The arrogance of believers.

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  1. crank

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    It's actually an excellent question. How do you reconcile the god-provided wins? You keep ignoring this point and instead keep attempting to throw the dialogue via personal observations.
     
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    I understand the need to demonise criticism, and also understand the desire to lay the blame for the criticsm on 'externals'. if people keep saying mean things about your god (because your god is mean), there must be something wrong with THEM. that probably feels good in the saying - and maybe in some cases the messengers do have issues (refugees from indoctrination etc), but none of that changes the fact that you had the misfortune to be a believer in the rapidly manifesting post-faith era. The criticism is only going to get louder - and it's about a thousand years overdue.
     
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    The person who makes the claim of God's involvement in a 'win', is the person who would reconcile his/her statement. Within all probability, that person would simply say that he/she believes that God was involved and beyond that no other justification is needed. He or she BELIEVES. Whether or not you or others believe it is irrelevant to that believer.
     
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    Seriously? Well we know you believe in God because of your post and its wording. Thanking God or giving God his props when one accomplished something grand is more a public witnessing of God by the individual.
    You are right though that day to day business probably doesn't concern God to much, but when a actor or singer wins some big award they rarely thank God they usually spend 10 minutes thanking everyone but God.
    So it all works out in the wash.
     
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    it is relevant if in indulging such a vanity, the believer ignores the fact that the god who moved the universe to ensure his win, simultaneously failed to help a starving child - who died right about the time he scored the winning touchdown. that makes said believer effectively a monster - or at best, an egoist of spectacular magnitude. not to mention what it says about a god who would do such a thing. but it's the THINKING it that matters, here. our humanity is utterly (*)(*)(*)(*)ed over by such self-indulgent lapses in compassion and reason. it's quite literally, evil.
     
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    or in fact, cared about. THAT is the problem.
     
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    Your writing displays a bit of personal perspective and judgment relating to the condition of believers, while at the same time it displays a similar characteristic relating to your own shortcoming. Have you given up all that you have in order to save that one child that you spoke about? Did you do anything to prevent the demise of that one specific child who now serves as your idol that is placed above all other things?
     

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