Hmmm... as an attempt at changing the subject goes, that was more than overkill. Timing is not where you have failed in this thread. Knowing what you are talking about... that's a whole other issue. Being able to answer simple questions... that's a whole other issue. Having the courage of your convictions... that's a whole other issue.
You gotta love it! The Baron of Hawaiis forged document might be challenged in Arizona; the very place the Baron of Arizona tried to steal. Were I a conspiracy theorist I would accuse the Fates of engineering a head-on collision between the two Barons. Arizona sheriff promises Obama-eligibility probe Lawman responds to request from local tea-party leaders Posted: August 18, 2011 9:20 pm Eastern MARICOPA COUNTY, Ariz. At the request of tea party leaders in Arizona, famed Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has promised to investigate the validity of Barack Obama's purported long-form birth certificate in a determination of the president's eligibility for the county's 2012 election ballot. Tea party leaders in Surprise, Ariz., met with Arpaio and WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi Thursday morning to express concern that a fake birth certificate would be used to document the president's eligibility to run in Maricopa County, where Arpaio is the chief law enforcement officer. Arpaio's tough crackdown on illegal immigration has made him a national figure. At a one-hour meeting in Arpaio's office, the tea party leaders presented the sheriff with a petition that was drafted after a speech by Corsi the previous night. Corsi, author of a best-selling book challenging Obama's eligibility, "Where's the Birth Certificate?", presented evidence from numerous computer-imaging specialists who believe the document presented by the White House April 27 is not authentic. At the gathering Wednesday night of more than 325 people, sponsored by the Surprise Tea Party Patriots of Surprise, Ariz., and the Liberty Through Action organization, 242 signatures were gathered on the petition, which requested that Arpaio begin a criminal investigation. The petition calls for the sheriff to investigate the possibility that a crime has been committed against the Arizona secretary of state, who must decide whether to put Obama's name on the ballot. Arpaio told the tea party leaders the complaint is within his jurisdiction, and he will be forced to investigate. He said he expects political pressure, but he pointed out that as the chief law enforcement officer of Maricopa County, he's taken an oath to respond to citizens who approach him about enforcing the law. Maricopa County Sheriff's Office Lt. Justin Griffin confirmed to WND that Arpaio is "waiting to receive all the documentation and all the investigative material from Dr. Jerry Corsi, and then he will look into the matter and compare it to the Arizona revised statutes." The petition states: We the undersigned citizens are respectfully requesting that you initiate a criminal investigation under the authority of A.R.S. 13-2407 A-C, Into the alleged Certificate of Live Birth, File Number 151 61 10641, State of Hawaii, for Barack H. Obama II. The document was released on April 27, 2011, by the White House to the press and posted on the White House website and distributed and downloaded by computer throughout the nation, including within Maricopa County. Reportedly, several experts have declared the document to be a forgery. Reportedly, the file number may be out of sequence; "THE" appears to be misspelled as "TXE" in the State Registrar's stamp; there appears to be a "smiley face" in the "A" in the Alvin T. Onaka, State Registrar stamp; reportedly the document has computer generated, multiple layers and is not a copy of a single layered document; font types appear to vary throughout the document, reportedly, not possible with a vintage 1961 mechanical typewriter. We urge you to continue to support the Rule of Law and to investigate and determine whether the alleged Certificate of Live Birth, for Barack H. Obama II, File Number 151 61 10641, is a forgery or an authentic document. A.R.S. 13-2407 A-C, declares that tampering with a public record is a class 6 felony. "I think what we've seen is history created today," said Surprise tea party leader Brian Reilly. "This is probably the first time in this country that citizens have gone to a sheriff over a national issue." Reilly said he's "extremely grateful" that Arpaio will look into the matter is "hopeful that this will achieve what we're expecting to achieve on this issue, which is the truth." "We're trying to get to the truth," he emphasized. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=335261
Hmm... no quotations from Arpaio promising anything... and a neatly phrased little blow-off in paragraph 8: For those unfamiliar with politician speak, the translation of that is: "Sure. Send us your crap. We'll pretend to look at it before we toss it in the trash."
Do you Obama-lovers not understand how foolish you look sticking your neck out for a politician from Chicago? I long again quit caring whether Obama was actually born in Hawaii or not... too many other serious things to worry about now that he's been in office awhile. But darned if I don't hope 'the truth' comes out someday so you'll look like the fools you are for believing Barack Obama and those who wanted in him power are above carrying out such a devious plan to deceive our country. It's no wonder liberalism is dying... the same people who believe in the ideology also appear to have blind faith in liberal politicians. As if they give 2 cents about your well-being. Just sent Flanders a rep for how well he suffers you idiots. If you were smart, you'd ignore threads like this instead of making fools outta yourself about something you have no way of knowing for sure. Such morons you are...
Who's an Obama lover? I'm a truth lover. Unlike you. And yet here you are. LOL... The truth is out. The mere fact that you have a delusion which prevents you from accepting it does not mean the truth is going to change. Why would I ignore a thread where kooky people like the birthers say kooky things? The birthers are a train wreck. It's fun to watch.
Maybe so... maybe no. But won't you be the one with egg on your face if it turns out he's been lying all this time? What has Obama ever done that causes you to put so much faith in his integrity? I mean, besides being born black?
Not half as much fun as it is to watch Obama lovers rush to his defense. As if any were actually in the delivery room when he was born.
Of course... just like I will be the one with gills and scales when it turns out I've been an albicore all this time. Well... less than three years through his first term he's already kept 349 of his 508 campaign promises. I cannot think of a single other modern politician who has come close. Did somebody just play the race card?
Oh... it can't possibly be even half as much fun. After all... it's always more fun to win than lose, and we have never lost. Birthers? Not so much.
To WongKimArk: I would take more notice of your opinion were it not for Sheriff Arpaio himself. Ive seen him on TV and he strikes me as a straightforward guy. If he says he will give the submitted material a fair evaluation in relation to Arizonas laws, I believe he will do just that. To Smartmouthwoman: Thank you for the reputation boost. I have a bad habit of not looking at the upper right-hand corner of my screen; so I never check my notifications. Thanks again, and thanks to the others who took the time to send me a good word. To WongKimArk: No. Smartmouthwoman just trumped the race card Hussein & Company have been playing since the 2008 campaign. To WongKimArk: You will when the referees are not in Husseins back pocket.
ROFLMAO... less than 3 yrs into his first term and Unemp 9%+ More people on foodstamps than ever in our history Gasoline $3.50/gallon Food prices soaring Tripled the deficit Lost our AAA credit rating Home foreclosures exploding Wall Street tanking New war in Libya costing us $4 million A DAY Gitmo still open Troops still in Iraq & Afghanistan Small Businesses dropping like flies 400,000+ jobs lost last week Sorry, you just lost whatever tidbit of credibility you ever had with that statement. Obaaaaaama.
They're blinded by his light, Flanders. It's never so obvious as when someone mentions his birth certificate and they come a'runnin to defend him. Like they're 100% sure he's telling the truth. Only fools have that much faith in somebody they don't even know.
And what does that have to do with his eligibility? Birthers, like yourself, seem to comingle their hatred of Obama with his job performance and then seem to think that means he must not have been eligible. You want to rant about his record- well you have started dozens of threads with your opinions- so you do that all the time. You want to show some evidence he was not eligible when he was elected, put your cards on the table. It will be easier to have a rational discussion if you don't confuse eligiblity with your hatred of Obama. And just to repeat the obvious- you- and Birthers have never presented anything but speculation, innuendo and lies regarding Obama's eligiblity. You still can't stand that he was legally elected, so you try to convince yourself that it couldn't have happened legally. And invent conspiracies to make it happen. Yeah...Birthers are fun to watch. In London in the old days, it was called Bedlam.
heh.....ah now you have described Birthers completely. Birthers had no problem assuming Bush was eligible. Birthes had no problem assuming McCain was eligible. Birthers are certain that Bachmann and Palin are elgible. They have so much faith in anyone but Obama that they never asked anyone but Obama to prove his eligibility. Of course us Anti-Birthers, we don't rely upon faith like Birthers do. We know that Obama is the only President who has ever provided any actual evidence to voters that he is eligible. We rely upon official documents- you know birth certificates. And confirmation from actual government officials responsible for confirming someone's place of birth. Birthers- they rely upon faith. They have faith that everyone else is eligible, and they have faith that Obama is not. How do I know this....because faith is belief in the absence of evidence. Just like the people trying to find the Ark, Birthers started off by assuming that Obama was not eligible and have spent three years looking for what they assumed on faith existed. Just like the Moon Landing deniers, no amount of proof will ever satisfy Birthers. Which is why it really sucks to be a Birther.
No, dear. You told us you believe Barack was born in Hawaii. Since there's no witness to his birth who's still alive and can verify that fact... what you actually believe in is a piece of paper he gave you. Without question. 100% convinced. Absolutely, postively SURE that piece of paper is true. My, but you liberals are gullible. Good thing there are people like Flanders around to watch over us. Left up to you guys, Charlie Manson might be our next president.
Uncle Ferd says he heard... ... Jim Neighbors (Gomer Pyle) owns a big ol' pineapple plantation in Hawaii.
Yes dear, I told you that too. Welcome to the human condition. That piece of paper is under the law absolute legal proof. Of course. After all... there is zero evidence to contradict it. I'm pretty sure Charles Manson is a Republican.
About his birthplace? He's not. Anyone who thinks otherwise is insane. I don't have any faith in his integrity. I have faith in the evidence, which is insurmountable. Just a question: Who do you support for President at this present time, anyone in the race? Can you explain to me how two Republicans who actively campaigned for McCain (former DOH director Fukino and Republican governor Lingle) are in Obama's "back pocket?" Answer: No, of course you can't. It's just another one of your unsupported cheap shot attacks, with no basis in reality. And what is your evidence to the contrary? Anything? Feel free to point us to some. The truth is, it's never possible to know anything 100%. Only idiot birthers pretend otherwise. There are varying levels of proof used in our justice system, and Obama has certainly met the burden of "clear and convincing evidence," and even proof "beyond all reasonable doubt." Edit: I see from your posts you're a Perry supporter. So, I presume you were in the room when Perry was born, then?
As opposed for course to every, single other President in history- in which you- and I just believed what the candidate told us. No piece of paper, no secondary evidence, just GW Bush's say so. Clinton's scouts honor. Tricky Dicks word. And Birthers wouldn't ask for a Birth Certificate for Charlie Manson either, if he was released from prison and eligible. Because there is only one man in history that Birthers have stated that must not be eligible because....well darn it we will find some reason! Sure we are gullible for believing every single form of officially documenting and registering a birth that is established and regulated by law and custom in the United States. Birthers- you want to rely upon innuendo, speculation and well bald faces lies. Oh and by the way- eye witnesses are notoriously unreliable. Memories are amazingly pliable- like you know how Birthers now remember learning that two parent citizens are requried to be a natural born citizen, even though they had never heard of that 4 years ago? We are a post oral history nation- we don't rely upon the whimsy of some eyewitness for such crucial things as birth and death records....we make official records of such things so when the eyewitnesses can't remember or agree or you know die...we have records. Poor gullible Birthers....led by the nose by Orly and Corsi and WND and Apuzzo down the rabbit hole.
Well youi know she doesn't need Perry to prove he was born here...she just knows he must have been. Perry goes by the rules for regular Presidential candidates, not the 'special rules' Birthers have for President Obama. Hmmm what makes Perry like all the other Presidents.....hmmm
