The Big Bang didn't happen

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  1. James California

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    ~ The earth and Universe always was , and always will be. Believe in Infinity and you will be at peace. Respect Mother Nature — for she knows all ...

    ~ We know who you are — and we don't believe it.
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    Logical fallacy.
     
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    Explain your reasoning.
     
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    Because that itself is only a theory, and is not commonly accepted.

    So you are basing your entire claim on a hypothetical object in a theory that is not even provable as even those who support the concept admit it is impossible to prove them.

    It is basically like saying that radio could not exist, as they have never detected ether.

    As I said, logical fallacy.
     
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    The Logical Fallacy is all "correct" thinking
    requires the establishment's foundation.
    Such as Big Bang theory

    I liked her Saigon nightclub act as . . . .


    Moi :oldman:
    Just say "No" to Big Bang theory.
    And presumptions extrapolated.
    Worse than the 14th Amendment extrapolation





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    No, ultimately the fallacy here is that it is mandating the detection of what is essentially something that is known to be fictitious, but is used in theories to hold the place of an unknown.

    And it is hardly unique, it happens all the time. Like what I said in my last post about "ether".

    Just like gravitons, they were an unknown object that had no mass or density, and were undetectable. That is because of the knowledge of physics at the time, it was believed that like sound, radio waves and other particles had to propagate through some other medium. So they came up with the concept of "ether" as that unknown "fluid" that allowed the transmission of radio waves. And that made perfect sense, as the very idea of radio was so new, and it was proven back in the 1650's that sound required some kind of medium to travel, and in fact would not travel in a vacuum.

    It was only in the late 1600s that it was realized that the previously unknown medium for sound was just air (or water), so even earlier theories about an invisible medium were discarded. Only to return again with the dawn of radio.

    Of course, later on it was proven that there was no need to have a fluid for radio waves to be transmitted through, so the entire concept was thrown into the trash. In short, ether and gravitons are a place holder with a value of zero. Where those theorizing on a concept can not prove that anything actually exists, but are putting in that zero sum placeholder in the event that something is later discovered that may change the theory.

    "Gravitons" are without mass, invisible, and undetectable by nature, because they are not believed to exist. It is just a placeholder to stand until we understand more about how gravity actually works at that level.
     
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    Apparently it's all about how to explain the initial state of the universe:
     

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