The Brothers Tsarnaev: The Lee Harvey Oswalds of the Boston bombings?

Yes.

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Sorry, I mean got any proof this man was Dzokhar Tsarnaev? You are asking me to believe that this was the man all of Boston was hunting for and no one realizes or mentions it? And yet, somehow, the same man (D.Tsarnaev), if the OP is to be believed, winds up bleeding to death, potentially, in a small boat in someone's back yard in Watertown, Ma.?

You lunatics are funny, if nothing else.

 

You asked 'what naked man'.

You asked for an eye witness account.

I gave you what you wanted, predictably you shift the goalposts.

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And those are personal attacks.

Again.

See if you can go a post without doing one.

 

Anyway, for the others that have manners, let's move on...

Maret Tsarnaeva the aunt of Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev the suspected Boston marathon bombers has revealed to me that she can positively identify the oldest nephew Tamerlan Tsarnaev as the man who was stripped naked and placed into a police cruiser during the manhunt for the suspects.

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http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04...naked-man-as.html?showComment=1366718883 296

 

There really is no "shifting of the goal posts" roll as my whole interest in this figure was due to your OP's false and absurd claim that the naked man was Dzokhar Tsarnaev. Like everything else about your OP (which you will not defend) it is filled with false and absurd claims. I only discussed one of them.

Well I would remove the pronoun YOU from that sentence, if I could go back. Otherwise the statement stands on it's own.
Perhaps, while you are thinking of it, you can delete the anti Semitic comments you have made in reference to me (laugh out loud...I'm not a jew) and stop refering to my posts as "ignorant crap".

 

That's rather odd as your OP
states the aunt has positively identified the "naked man" as Dzokhar...not Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

Regardless of you inability to get your story straight, how does this naked man wind up being shot down in a fire fight with FBI and police agents in Watertown after being in police custody? Perhaps you should huddle with aunty and come up with a more plausable tale.

 

I don't own the "Israeli asskisser" moniker, Its obvious that you are ignorant of my stance wrt Israel.

Thus far the "so-called" facts are as much speculation as anything else. Seems the need for instant gratification provides strong impetus for conspiracy theories. The "shady" aspect is at this time simply a result of how these things unfold in the wired world. tons of speculation, misreporting, rumours and a few facts thrown in. Over the course of the investigation, more facts are revealed while the principle conspiracy theories are "fleshed out" with more rumours and speculation and "questions".

Again, the conflicting "data" is more a function of rumor and speculation posing as "breaking news" by a news media that seems to repeatedly get the story wrong in their rush to bring the story to their audiences and count coup against their competitors. It is further fueled by social media and just about any kook with a twitter account.

First, I am way too expensive to give myself away especially to the likes of you.

Second, I use the term conspiratorialist as an accurate description of those that believe in a conspiracy

Third, I am dismissive of the idiots who immediately default to convoluted government plots on the "strength" of some unaswered questions, rampant speculation, and inuendo without ANY supporting evidence. Your proposition that conspiracies are the default position of power brokers, governments and corporations is more hollywood and spy thriller than fact. That is not to say that they do not indulge in conspiracies and cover ups, its simply that it is not the default modus operandi of these entities.
As for criminal organizations, of course they indulge in conspiracies - its the nature of their business, duh.

Ah yes, another logical fallacy - an important and necessary tool of the conspiracy nuts and the intellectually dishonest.
I do not make lame attempts, else you wouldn't have your knickers in a twist. I do not belittle the asking of valid questions, but I sure as hell do belilttle such nonsense as in the OP comparing the JFK assassination to the boston bombings - that is just so much horsecrap.

Nope, I can't grasp the fact that the government and the media are in constant cover up mode, because that isn't a fact, its paranoid speculation of a conspiratorialist.

And it would seem that you are "nuance challenged" as I was specific about the subject of my remarks being government/media conspiracy, NOT government/media lying to the public. Yet, from your response, you failed to grasp the point. But never mind.

 

LOL

You are a transparent tool and I wouldn't pay a nickel for any of the constant drivel you spew forth here or anywhere else.

 

I believe insult is a high art form and after careful study I can tell you that it appears you haven't quite mastered finger painting. Hint, use your fingers.

 

Well, I suppose this foolishness has run it's course. That was easy.

 

whats really funny is there are STILL people today,including posters on THIS forum,that have been brainwashed by the lies and propaganda of the warren commission that oswald was the lone assassin. anybody who still believes in that fairy tale after all these years is a retarded idiot.

whats even more funny,is as you can see from this link here.posters came on and claimed "I" was closed minded when i posted irrefutable facts and evidence there was a conspiracy to kill JFK and oswald was innocent.

http://www.politicalforum.com/opinion-polls/271305-jfk-11.html

as you can see,not ONE of them had any answers for the facts I listed.

also as you see by the replies,they got really frustrated when confronted with facts they could not refute and were cornered with, and then threw temper tantrems in frustration not being mature enough to admit defeat,especially Crankshaft. they eventually all ran off once they knew they were cornered and could not refute my facts as you can see.hee hee.


they are probably not even aware that through the freedom of information act released in the 90's,that we now know that oswald was what many researchers for many years speculated he was,a CIA agent.These lon nut theorists are so dense though they dont get it that you will never hear that from the lamestream media cause it is controled by the CIA and walter kronkite was a CIA agent who participated in the coverup.

 

easy to ignore facts and make childish posts like this one when you cant counter the facts.congrats.

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thats the mindset of people like him here obviously.hee hee.

 

so very true.you took the words right out of my mouth.

 

not one of them could refute post # 101 of mine on that thread.they could only sling crap in defeat and whine about being defeated.lol.

 

The longer this goes on, the more of a suspect device it strikes me as.

Not saying I know precisely what went down, why, and by whom, not saying that at all.

Indeed, my position is the less arrogant one, and indeed, the most honourable legally, since I am keeping my mind open, and reacting to new info, as it may come in, while others seem to decide from the get go that they had all the answers...

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Do you make derogatory comments about me in random threads because I don't respond to them? I don't have one comment in this thread, so why do you bring me into it? You might be referring to our conversation in your Opinion Poll thread titled "Was JFK..."

In the Opinion Poll thread titled "Was JFK....." you told me the House Select Committe on Assassinations investigation in the 70's even concluded that the Warren Commission was wrong.

I said I agreed with the HSCA.

You agreed, and said that the lone gunmen theorists were nuts.

I said you must have misunderstood my post, because I was a lone gunman theorist.

I pointed out that House Select Committee on Assassinations agreed with everything the Warren Commission said with only one exception. That soon led to you saying:

"you dodge EVERY one of my facts like all the cowards on here have"
"YOU are the one thats close minded.you are the one that has made no attempt to be educated here or to try and debate"
"YOU are the one making attacks"
"i was civil to you and here you come back with all these attacks"
"I dont agree with the HSCA report"
"you just post a buch of b.s saying oswald was the lone assassin with NO EVIDENCE"
"you also are so much afraid of the truth and in denial,you wont even address that post of mine"
"im not the one cowardly running away from FACTS"
"ever think YOU might be the one who is loony"
"Im not the one cowardly running off with my tail between my legs"
"has the gall to say that "I" was the one trolling"
"such hypocrisy'
"they wont even attempt to try and debunk these facts"
"they get so frustrated that they cant counter these facts that they start throwing temper tantrems"
""I" had a valid reason in my last post to throw a tantrem unlike Crankshaft."
"not ONE SINGLE lone nut theorist has even attempted to debunk these facts"
"oswald was innocent that the lone nut theorists all refuse to address'
"no your just afraid of the truth, been brainwashed by our corrupt school system and only see what you WANT to see which is why you will ignore all these facts"
"you clearly dont know anything at all about the laws of physics"
"this photo clearly shows this marine sniper and myself"-
"the zapruder film has been altered"
"the driver indeed did it"
"the autopsy photos were altered as well"
"dallas doctors said the head wound and neck wound were both ENTRANCE wounds"
"this photo clearly shows this marine sniper and myself unlike you people who are in denial and have been brainwashed "
"the hughes film ... was focused on the alleged 6th floow window ... before,during,and after the shooting and there is NOBODY in that window"
"Now if you were saying he was PART of a conspiracy,you would have a case"
"these are the facts you cant get around that there WAS a conspiracy."
"love the logic of the lone nut theorists"
"you lone nut theorists have no answers for any of these facts"
"so you ready to do the mature thing right now and admit defeat? If not,that just shows your immature and are afraid of the truth because you were just taken to school now and had your arse handed to you on a platter."

I think the Warren Commission was correct and believe the HSCA report was correct with one exception. You think the Warren Commission got nothing right and now say that the HSCA got only one thing right. To you, that one thing makes the rest of both reports are invalid. It just happens that I don't agree with you, but since I disagree you say I'm (among other things) a brainwashed, immature coward who needs to go back to high school.

I have no problem with you believing what you believe. I have no problem with you raising questions about JFK's assassination. I have no problem that you don't agree with the Warren Commission. I have no problem that you disagree with the HSCA report. I don't even care that you disagree with me. Your questions,however, have been answered time and time again in thread after thread and in forum after forum by a legion of posters and you won't consider or debate the content of those replies; you attack the messenger.

Your unreasonable and illogical rants are so intellectually dense, I suspect you are doing it on purpose, expecting and depending on responses just so you can argue.

THAT'S why I won't constantly respond to your posts.

 

I already did counter the facts, or should I say, the unsupported b.s.

You need to read more and shoot off your opinion hole less.

 

yeah an OPINION poll, but opinions dont measure up to FACTS which you blatantly ignore.hahahahahahahahahaahhaa

again you need to look in the mirror when saying someone has unreasonable and illogical rants.see you lie again.No they attack me when they cant counter the facts.I have proved to you in spades the warren commission got practically EVERYTHING wrong as I just posted,you wont look at those facts and acklowledge them,its not my fault you wont look at the evidence.

Like I just got done posting,I proved the warren commission got 99% of EVERYTHING wrong,.you ignored it AGAIN knowing you could not refute those facts just as you are right now and just like you did then,continue throwing temper tantrems in frustration knowing you cant counter it.

again,OPINIONS dont measure up to facts which you blatantly ignore.its been spelled out to you dummies style in one of my threads in the JFK section that there were multiple shooters that killed him and oswald was innocent,its not MY fault you ignore it and wont look at the facts and evidence.

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only in your fairy tale land you live in.

 

well your a lot more reasonable about this than another certain poster I know whom I wont mention on the JFK assassination anyways. The mob was involved in the JFK assassination but at a lower level though.

for a long time I considered that they were the ones that orchestrated the event and pulled it off but then when i started thinking about how the parade route was changed and altered,and how the secret service violated all proptocals that day and did not get punished or reprimanded for it,and how oswald was set up and sent to Russia and back to the united states without being prosecuted for the traiter he should have been vowing to turn over secrets to the soviets,and how the media covered the event up and that made me realise the mob didnt have that kind of power to pull it off.they never could have controlled the media like they were that day.Only the government could.

It was the CIA that did it because he was going to pull out of vietnam.he had signed an order that would withdraw all military personal by 1965 two months before his assassination.two days later after his assassination.Johnson signed an order that reversed his policy and esculated the war. we know the CIA pulled it off because as the HSCA on investigation was winding down,two CIA men came forward and said-we did it,where do you want to go with this investigation?

the committe of course ignored that lead and did not pursue it since it pointed towards govenment involvement.there was a member who served on that committe in fact who resigned in disgust because just liek thr warren commission,it was not interested in pursuing the truth.

we also know it was the CIA because E HOWARD HUNT who was arrested in the watergate burglury and was a covert operation officer who did covert wars for the CIA when Nixon was vice president under Eisenhower,for years,independent researchers thought a picture taken that day of a tramp was E Howard Hunt.and for years Hunt denied that was him and that he was never in dallas till a couple years ago right before he died,his son taped recorded him and he gave a confession he WAS in dallas that day as part of a CIA operation to kill Kennedy.

He lied about it for years that he was not in dallas that day but gave a death bed confession he WAS in dallas that day to help the CIA to kill him.

 

Why is it so hard for many of you to accept that Dzokhar and his co-conspirators are the "lone wolf" terrorist?

 

I am personally agnostic about it, as it were.

Sorry if you have already sorted it all out, and are judge and jury.

 

Shot an' run over by his brother...

Boston suspect died of gunshots, blunt trauma
Sun, May 05, 2013 - MARATHON BOMBINGS: Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s family found a funeral home willing to handle his body. US officials say the bombings were originally planned for July 4

 

this post always gets the lone nut theorists frustrated and they start throwing temper tantrems as evidenced on that link I provided earlier cause they know they are cornered and cant refute the facts.hee hee.they never have any rebuttals and can never counter any of this.

1.no your just afraid of the truth, and only see what you WANT to see which is why you will ignore all these facts as we both know.there were many people who came forward who gave versions different than the governments who wound up dying in mysterious deaths.

2.some witnesses to the tippet shooting reported seeing TWO men fire at tippet and their descriptions did not fit oswald.neither did the descrptions of the few witnesses who said they saw oswald in the 6th floor window.matter of fact,a film taken of the event that was focused on the 6th floor window,shows TWO figures moving around before the assassination.

3.oswald was sure nonchalent about getting in position and getting up there to shoot the president in the fact that his limo was suppose to arrive at 12:20 where a witness in the book depository said she saw oswald at 12:25 in the second floor room drinking a coke and the limo was running late and did not arrive till 12:30 TEN MINUTES LATE!!. so oswald is all of a sudden a psychic and knows Jfk is going to run late all of a sudden? your funny.

4.witnesses claimed the warren commission altered many of their testimonys,a crime itself that the commission members should have all gone to jail for:yep,no conspiracy there.
the most important one they altered was sandra stiles and another girl who gave testimony they were walking down the stairs in the same timeframe the commission said oswald went down the stairs.in later years after refusing to admit their time frame was wrong,they received harrassment by the police and eventually changed their names and address to get away from that harrassment.

6.witnesses that were there that day have come forward years later identifying themselves in the photos that they were there that day saying they saw a rifleman behind the picket fence.they kept quiet because of all the people who started dying who gave versions different than the governments.they are old and no longer afraid of them anymore and they are talking.Plus Grodens book THE KILLING OF A PRESIDENT indeed shows a pic of a rifleman behind the picket fence.you cant find it on the computer but its in that book.

7.many photographer experts have concluded the zapruder film has been altered which is why you dont see Greer the driver who had connections to to the CIA,turn around and fire the fatal head shot to the head. some of the surgeons said that the bullet that killed him came from a HANDGUN shot at close range so the driver indeed did it.the man behind the picket fence was a diversion to get everyones attention away from him.

8.they have also concluded the autopsy photos were altered as well.

9 at least two days before the assassination,Rose Cheramie,a lady whom a highway police officer found off to the side of the highway dumped from a car in Lousiana,was taken into a hospital and told the doctors while she was still awake before they sedated her,that there was a plot of MEN traveling to dallas to kill Kennedy.the doctors did not take her seriously since they found her to be on drugs but after the assassination,they then took her serious and notified the dallas police and of course she later on died mysteriously after that.How conveinient for the warren commission,yep no conspiracy there.

10.all the dallas doctors said the head wound and neck wound were both ENTRANCE wounds.

11.you clearly dont know anything at all about the laws of physics since a persons head goes FORWARD if shot from behind.Not ony have many people come on before and posted in the JFK section saying they are hunters and have never seen an animals head go backwards when shot from behind,but an experienced sniper from vietnam who had several DOZEN of sniper kills and was one of the most highly decorated,wrote a book about it as well saying he has never seen a mans head go backwards after shooting them from behind.

12.oh and this photo clearly shows this marine sniper and myself unlike you people who are in denial and have been brainwashed by the media,know what we are talking about in the fact his head is going forward after being shot from behind as well.the proof is in the pudding.

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13.finally, the hughes film which was taken in dealy plaza by cant remember his first name but last name was Hughes,his film was focused on the alleged 6th floow window and close up photos that have been shown at seminars in dallas over the years show closeups taken seconds before,during,and after the shooting and there is NOBODY in that window!!!!!!


Now if you were saying he was PART of a conspiracy,you would have a case because of these facts below of unnaccountable bullets found at the scene and photographed but as I just proved,that falls apart as well cause of the testimony of the two ladies going down the stairs in the same timeframe the warren commission said oswald went down.

14.these are the facts you cant get around that there WAS a conspiracy.

love the logic of the lone nut theorists.the warren commission was so biased of an investigation its a sick joke It doesnt even touch on many key facts such as several of the witnesses testimony were altered by the warren commission,itself an illegal act,or the many unnaccountable bullets found that day like an entrance shot to the windshield that forensic officers said was an indeed an entrance shot,or the bullet photographed in the doorframe,or the one on the curb that was replaced two days later and plastered over with,or the one on the street marked by an officer,and the one in the street sign seen in the zapruder film that witnesses saw which was taken down and replaced a day later, or the one where a police officer is seen picking it up one off the grass and putting it in his pocket and walking away with it illegally removing evidence

and according to two women, they altered the testimony of two theirs of having gone down the same stairway the warren commission said oswald went down during the same timeframe.altering their timeframe they gave.

again they altered many witnesses testimony.a crime itself.

you all are also ignorant of the testimony of Rose Cherimae, whom you see in the beginning of the film JFK she was a woman found on the side of a highway in Louisiana by a highway patrol officer who was taken to a hospital and told doctors a couple days before the assassination that there was a plot to kill kennedy.that there were MEN traveling to dallas to kill kennedy.they did not take her serious at first because she was found to be on drugs, but after the assassination,they then took her seriously and called the dallas police,and how conveinent for the government that she ended up dying mysteriously after that.

many witnesses who came forward and gave testimony that did not fit the governments version of events ended up dying mysteriously.in fact,some witnesses kept quiet for many years because they were afraid of winding up as mysterious deaths if they camer forward and talked about a gunman they saw firing a rifle behind the picket fence.Now they are old and close to death so they dont care anymore and are no longer afraid.

you lone nut theorists have no answers for any of these facts.

they NEVER have any answers for these facts as you can see from that link I posted earlier.hee hee.

 

Hey Jack,just wondering,were you aware of all these facts I listed on E Howard Hunt and those two CIA men coming forward towards the end of the HSCA investigation saying-we did it where do you want to go with this investigation? and since the committee was not interested in pursuing the truth,a senator on that committe resigned in disgust since it ignored any facts that pointed towards government involvement?

the HSCA investigation was just as much of a joke as the warren commission was because it was set up to conclude that oswald was the lone assassin as well and was about ready to do so till the end when accoustic evidence surfaced at the last minute of a cop riding on his motorcycle with his dictabelt open that day unintentionally,it recorded the sounds of 5 gunshots.so since the committe could not hide the fact there was a second gunman involved anymore because of those facts,they came up with a NEW patsy saying it was the mob that did it concluding there was a proabable conspiracy to kill kennedy but they were unable to locate the other shooter.

thats what cracks me up about the lone nut theorists logic is they ignore that even the government admitted the warren commission was wrong on its MOST IMPORTANT fact,that there were TWO gunman involved.If you have two gunman involved,by definition,thats a conspiracy.hee hee.

 

notice how that one lone nut theorist that was here earlier ran off cause he knew he was cornered and cant admit he has been proven wrong? hee hee.