Well I don't know what to tell you then. The entire rest of the world seems to know the difference between slavery and segregation, so it's unlikely that if there ever are any sort of reparations, that they are going to just lump segregation and slavery together as if they represent the same sort of wrong. I don't know why you would think I'm benefiting from it. I don't have anyone in my family who has benefited from AA so I don't know what you think I'm getting 90% of. Although I do understand that white women in general have benefited from it, I think it's a misuse of the concept. I can't tell whether you do or not since you always seem so eager to discuss something that you are exceedingly vague about. For example, what specific reforms would you like to see in Affirmative Action? In a previous thread I think you said that it could be evaluated in about 400 years. Although technically that's not forever, it means you don't intend for it to end in your lifetime or anyone else's that you know. You must really be benefiting from all those white women gaming the system!
Not sure who you have been talking to or listening to, but we have never rec'd restitution for slavery, jim crow segregation, racism or discrimination in this country. For the same reason you think I am. I can't think of anyone in my family who has benefitted from it either. For starters for it to help the people it was initially designed to. It should be reformed to help those whom actually need it. How long did slavery, segregation, racism and discrimination last in this country? I am pretty sure the early owners didn't want to see it end in their lifetime and many of them didn't see it end either. Once racism and discrimination based on color, race, etc. comes to an end in this country then and only then should AA.
I didn't say you have received restitution for slavery (other than the few who got the fabled 40 acres and a mule), so I'm unclear how you seemed to have gotten that impression by what I wrote. Let me try to restate what I originally said again: It's unlikely that if there ever are any sort of reparations, that they are going to just lump segregation and slavery together as if they represent the same sort of wrong. When we speak of restitution, it's in the context of slavery, not Jim Crow. That's interesting that you think I think you are benefiting from Affirmative Action. I've never said that, and considering your hostility to white women and their benefits from it, you seem more like someone who got screwed by the system rather than someone who benefited from it. So again, I still don't understand why you think I'm benefiting from AA So...you would agree with me that it needs to be limited to only African Americans? Then I was right, you want it to last forever. So why did you disagree with me?
Is this post supposed to make any sense? im trying to remain respectful, you have shown NO knowledge or understanding of Kamit so your opinion matters little as of now. Kamit was a non violent society. You can holla and scream all you like but you will never be able to drag it to western standards of savagery. just let it go and move down the bus.
Rwandans killed more people in a month than the Nazis could in six. talk about savages. - - - Updated - - - didn't you say European history is only 400 years old?
Thats what happens to ppl who collaborate with europeans. learn afrikan history, dont just comment on it like somebody who has no knowledge. - - - Updated - - - russia has no history, lets talk about something else
its me! im blaming whitey<<<<< me!, HELLOOOOO, Im white<<<<< ....and yes, until the smoke clears, all my fingers point that way>>>>>>>>>european<<<<<<<. iknow my history and iknow what we do around the world, iam the messenger, im no grass or snitch just keeping it real for all the fakes. Aevery war was started by us, europeans, man up.
that is according to you [that im white], personally idont self identify as white unless im talking to racists, then they can understand me more, see, simples. im just defeating you in your own language so there is no excuse. - - - Updated - - - it really isnt difficult to understand.
That was a myth also. I believe the crimes are one and the same. I don't have any hostility towards white women, I am only stating they have benefitted from it more than anyone which means white men benefit from it also. It needs to be open to anyone who has been or he is being discriminated against and white males aren't one of them. I want to last as long as it is needed.
that is according to you [that im white], personally idont self identify as white unless im talking to racists, then they can understand me more, see, simples. im just defeating you in your own language so there is no excuse.
So in summary, slavery and discrimination are one in the same as far as you're concerned, affirmative action should be open to everyone (including white women) except for white males, and it should last forever. Heh, some weird beliefs there!
As someone who grew up at the back end of Jim Crow segregation it is not as bad as slavery, but believe you me it isn't far behind. Both practices came to an end, but black folks have never been paid restitution for either. White men discriminated against white women and they discriminated against minorities. So if the program was designed to stop the discrimination why would the person who is responsible for it be included, that doesn't make any sense. When discrimination is brought to an end then AA should come to an end. - - - Updated - - - I guess slavery and Jim Crow segregation was a scam also. Unbelievable.
"Discrimination" is never going to end. The targets will change from time to time but there is always an officially approved scapegoat. But by your own definition I think you can see why affirmative action will become less and less popular for white males. Under the terms you've laid out, those are the only people who won't be covered by AA, so as they become a smaller and smaller part of the population, you will turn them in a Kulak class of undesirables. At least the working class ones. I'm sure there won't be much difference for the elite types. As far as reparations go, I think you've made a pretty good case why there won't be reparations. You want it to cover everything.
