The changing face of American Politics

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lucifer, Feb 6, 2020.

  1. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    We just saw it. It ended in acquittal.
     
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    To what are you referring? Specifics, please.
     
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    This is one of the biggest lies out there pushed by the DNC. Nobody has remotely suggested Trump should stay past his second term. Obama was the most imperial President since FDR and even he had to reluctantly leave office.
     
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    Yes!

    The changing electoral map is definitely something to watch for, especially with AZ and TX (a real surprise). In fact, right about this time last year I was in Prescott, AZ, on family business and one day while driving through the town square I saw a group of people with signs protesting. They were anti-Trump protesters!

    That sight just warmed my heart. :rock_slayer:
     
  6. Lucifer

    Lucifer Well-Known Member

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    You must have missed Trump's tweet:

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    Dude, I'm allowing you to explain yourself.

    The current status quo is a rule by the minority. Trump was elected by a minority of voters through the electoral college. He lost the popular vote.
     
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    You people keep saying that as though it matters one bit. Sorry your gal lost.
     
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    If I was a Democrat right now, I’d hope my family and friends would be asking me to come back in from the ledge.
     
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    Something tells me you have family members who are saying just that to you.
     
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    It's a big family but each one will still have to stand for election.
     
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    I don't care about the electoral college although I understand why it exists.

    No, I am saying there should be no vote at all.
     
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    We all hope that your memory functions better than your perception, so that in November you will be able to look in the mirror and recall the way you position yourself today.
    A large number of people who called themselves journalist and commentators did the same before the last election, and are still trying to avoid coming to terms with the fact that they, not Trump- are responsible for them looking like braying jackasses. It's not working......
     
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    Thank you for your reply. In the beginning I agree that Trump was trying to hard to friends with Russia but I do also believe that was trying hard not to be offensive to Russia, Korea or China. It was sort of like extending the carrot first. He really had no foreign experience and there were hard lessons to learn. I was glad to see him impose sanctions and tariffs on Russia, Iran, North Korea, and withhold aid from those countries that did not support our positions.

    His tactics are crude but foreign policy is hardball. I totally agree with you on Saudi Arabia. That seems the way the USA always play that game over there. Pit ***** Muslim against the Sunni Muslim and involve the Kurds and others to choose sides. It's all about Israel. Bush didn't need to invade Iraq but he did because they tried to kill his daddy he said. The Afghanistan people already showed they could fight a long war by driving the Russians out but when the Taliban decided to step in we involved ourselves.
     
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    I typed out a much longer answer but when I submitted it to post only some of it went through. Guess my computer was off line. Will get back to you later.
     
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    It's not really Biden that Trump fears but the voter turnouts, I see no reason behind his efforts for Biden.
    by the way it's a straight male here.
     
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    Wasn't referring you but maybe some that read you posts. I'm not sure what voters Biden attracts. You see him at a lot of Union halls and Union leadership hustles up a group for him. My dad was a Union guy in Detroit and attended all those Democrat functions but when sat around my house they would talk about voting for Reagan. Me and Biden are close to the same age and I can tell you that there are not many are age who are as full of piss and vinegar as we use to be. I had a 4 way a little over a year ago and most my days are good but I have bad days like I never use to have. Joe and Bernie and even Warren would be ding themselves and the country a favor if they turned over the reins to someone younger. It seems the Pelosy's, Clintons, and the cast of old Hollywood and aged singers just don't know how to let go and admit that their time is over.
     
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    I agree with your last statement, the DEMS now do have a crisis in terms of potent political contenders, but many also dislike Trump, considering that most of the GOP's are GOD fearing and GOD loving folks and sometimes Trump is in disagreement with them mostly the evangelicals lately, they always place GOD before themselves and anything else and that makes Trump placed in such a unsecured position, so my take is that the best thing to do is to make the Trump would be opponent more detesting. But whatever Trump is not doing it for himself his trying his best to do everything he can to progress forward the nation but still he have to go through the political arena and win the battle first.
     
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    You can have your fantasy, but it's not reality.
     
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    As long as Trump is pro-life and against abortion he will maintain his base of evangelicals. He is the 1st president to attend the Right To Life parade held this year. The group he has the hardest time with is the older black group. He has made some smaller inroads with younger educated blacks. You keep hearing how woman don't support him but the rallies I've seen there are a large percentage of woman. Like Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings use to sing "Ladies Love Outlaws".
     
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    How is Trump creating a racist policy by his border policy? We have a majority of whites on our Northern border but we do not have many major problems coming into the States. We do have some smuggling of low cost medicine's. On our Eastern borders we have a majority illegals coming into the states by boat from the islands. The majority our brown skin but illegal drugs our the main protect. Very little violence. On the Western border the main products are heroin, opioids, and human trafficking and the importation of some violence. The main groups are Asians. The Southern Border is the most attractive for illegal entry into the USA. The majority of those are brown skinned with the largest concentration of violence by the drug cartels. Other Nations, have tried with some success, to infiltrate the caravans that try and overrun our borders. Many of them are Middle Eastern or terrorist associated. Just because the greatest problems are minority related and that is were the greatest effort is being applied to protect our borders is not racist. Let us take MS13 for an example. Those that come up from El Salvador and illegally enter our country are mainly brown skinned. They are not across the border and need to find a place to blend in. Are they going to gravitate to a all white neighborhood or find a neighborhood with people just like them? They will pick the latter. Now you have the criminal types living in predominant brown neighborhoods causing all sorts of havoc. Should Trump and ICE just say " Hey! it's only a brown neighborhood leave them be" or should he do what he has been trying to do and go after the gangs and deport them? He doe's the second and I don't see where that's racist.

    The removing of children from adults at the border was started under Obama. The cages you see on TV were built under Obama. Was Obama a racist? I don't think so. Both Presidents wanted to make sure were not being used for smuggling or abused and were rightfully related to the adult they were with. No President asked for the mothers of these children to send them on a thousand mile journey and allow them to be pawns of the cartels and coyote's. Any Mother or Father that would expose their child to such cruel and dangerous and sometimes deadly circumstances should have their children taken away from them and be made to prove they are capable of being a loving parent.
     

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