The Curry corner

Judith Curry has her blog site humming with largely new information or explanations of science. This title above is purely my invention since she does not call her site that name.

So, to get her going, I will try to inform the forum, using her site for the data, to expose you to what real climate research looks like. It is not overblown with scare tactics. It appeals to scientists and not politicians. It is real stuff you can learn from. Scientists jump onto her blog and debate or add more data. I hope you are interested enough to check her out.

I won't post her entire article but this will link you to her site. You can explore her site all you want.

https://judithcurry.com/2017/04/22/untangling-the-march-for-science/#more-22997

 

I guess we have different definitions of Curry edit.

 

Hurricanes .... ending only posted. See link for entire discussion.

I am still studying this paper/report but this is important to understanding climate. A main takeaway is there is a solution. Plant more trees. Change what is happening in forests globally.

https://judithcurry.com/2017/04/23/...h-their-vast-supply-of-rain-water/#more-23011

 

This is excellent science, so I trust you will enjoy it.

https://judithcurry.com/2017/04/18/how-inconstant-are-climate-feedbacks-and-does-it-matter/

You can see it is about climate feedbacks. Why post the words when they are in the link. So enjoy.

 

Added to the Curry corner monday, 4/24

https://judithcurry.com/2017/04/24/...errys-memo-and-bill-nyes-optimism/#more-23013

Now this is by a planning engineer that evaluates US energy concerns. He discusses Bill Nye and other issues.

 

Where are the Republicans whom wish to discuss climate change issues?

 

So us tree huggers had it right all along. Who knew.....

 

Bored of the nonsense after all this time..

Shut your typers and go plant a tree.. I've planted many many, you?

"Oh muh co2" - makes my trees grow real gerd..

You go ahead and drive an electric car that causes REAL pollution in its production and I'll feed my trees enough for the both of us mmkay?

 

I simply invited my fellow republicans to a place where we can discuss real science and not that nonsense published by democrats in America and the left wing of other nations.

 

I never once posted against trees. I post against the anti science of Democrats though. Few are willing to join me to see to it millions more trees are planted. Funny innit?

 

Let's see if this includes videos.

1. • • Peter Lang | April 25, 2017 at 7:43 pm |
       Richard Rounds,
       
       Very well said, especially this take-away message:
       
       Energy is the life-blood of everything human society has achieved to date. As with all essentials, energy should be as reliable, secure and cost-effective as possible. It is no less important than food and water, if for no other reason than that the production of food and water depend on energy.
2. co2islife | April 25, 2017 at 6:53 am | Reply
   People need to go back and read/watch Eisenhower’s farewell speech. It is all coming true.
   
   Climate “Science” on Trial; The Prophet Eisenhower Warned Us About Climate Scientists
   https://co2islife.wordpress.com/201...isenhower-warned-us-about-climate-scientists/
   
   Here is a clip of the Eisenhower speech used in a global warming documentary. The entire documentary is worth watching and was/is very prophetic.
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5. ccscientist | April 25, 2017 at 9:19 am | Reply
   Environmentalists want wind and solar in the abstract, but in the real world where these take up space and require transmission lines, they lobby against them. They are “anti-“, just say no, NIMBY people. It is just who they are.
   
   
6. Jim D | April 25, 2017 at 9:31 am | Reply
   This is also on Happer and the March.
   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...s_58fe6336e4b086ce5898141e?section=us_science
   
   
7. talldave2 | April 25, 2017 at 12:11 pm | Reply
   Evidently this respect for “experts” does not extend to grid experts.
   
   Or coastal engineers.. Many of the biggest disconnects in the policy debate occur where climate science crosses over into climate engineering — the rules for engineers are very different, it can’t be merely plausible that your bridge won’t fall down or your grid won’t strand people without power when it’s 40 degrees below zero.
   
   
8. Pingback: Rick Perry’s Memo | Transterrestrial Musings
   
   
9. brentns1 | April 25, 2017 at 3:08 pm | Reply
   Al Gore’s New Group Demands $15 Trillion To Fight Global Warming
   http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/25/al-gores-new-group-demands-15-trillion-to-fight-global-warming/
   
   Charles A. S. Hall discusses the faults of the Dismal Science
   “Economics is not a science because it doesn’t use the scientific method”
   “ Don’t tell me dollars. Tell me energy. Because Dollars are only a lien on energy. That’s all they are”
   http://tinyurl.com/mbqowln
   
   Do we think that the $15 Trillion will be enough to compensate for the fact that The Dismal Science isn’t really scientific, and is not in accord with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?
   How much will the Banksters have to print to give to Al Gore and his buddies to repeal the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?/sarc
   
   Liquids – projections (Page 14)
   Natural decline in the absence of further investment
   Additional liquids to keep supply constant
   http://cdn.exxonmobil.com/~/media/g...y/2017/2017_outlook_for_energy_highlights.pdf
   
   Demonizing C as CO2 is a “Proxy” for HC Depletion
   
   
10. pessling | April 25, 2017 at 3:31 pm | Reply
    The link below comes from an Canadian petroleum industry daily news site and discusses the aspect of the real ability of moving away from hydrocarbons. It’s a very inciteful read and has some good advice for talking to true believers of the green revolution
    http://boereport.com/2017/04/25/if-...ties-of-transitioning-away-from-fossil-fuels/
    
    
11. André Friedli | April 25, 2017 at 3:42 pm | Reply
    Bill Nye’s optimism: –
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    As a certain YouTube commentator with a sense of humour remarked (in paraphrase), “If I was a person confused about my sexuality or sexual identity and saw Bill Nye’s video I would be so traumatised I’d join a monastery”.

 

Amicus Robert, sed magis amica veritas.

Do scientists have to have ( R ) or ( D ) next to their names?

Do you want to discuss science… or politics?

Do you think Mrs. Curry, if asked, would ever allow you to use her name in such a context?

Do you think that an R or D member of PF can make anything out of :

“That is because up to 2100 warming will depend very largely on the level of the transient climate response (TCR), not on equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS).”

“atmosphere-ocean global climate models (AOGCMs), specifically the CMIP5 models used in the IPCC AR5 report. As these models take thousands of simulation years to equilibrate, their ECS is usually estimated from the results of a simulation in which atmospheric CO2 concentration is abruptly quadrupled immediately after the simulation starts (abrupt4xCO2).”

Honestly, putting your hand on your heart, can you ( R ) do?

Mrs. Curry certainly devoted her life to learning Thermodynamics and making numerous logical suggestions and explanations based on the empirical measurements and evidence.

I think no half honest (D) can argue her skills and the input.

The thing is that she is no different from scientists who have (D) next to their names.

Because one thing she never learned or forgot is that Thermodynamics was founded and developed on the method which had no use for empirical evidence or logical conclusions made on the base of thereof; and Thermodynamics has no use for her explanations, however clever they are.

It was interesting to read her explanations about the nature of mechanical work of hurricanes; she is certainly a very learned woman, but:
but :

- No prediction about a number or direction or severity of hurricanes can be made out of it - and that is the beginning and end of all things,

- And I know not only me but anybody else can find holes, uncertainties, and questions to her view.

Thus a new opposite or correcting set of explanations will be created and anybody else will find holes, uncertainties, and questions to it.

And so on and on and on, as everyone can observe, the process of making such explanations and views can never end.

And for all this eternity of going back and forth we will never get a prediction about a number or direction or severity of hurricanes which would be "true or nearly true".

That’s why Newton once said, - it is not the way, it is a fake science.

They called it scientific revolution.

I am sorry, Robert, you are my friend, but Mrs. Curry is just another contra-revolutionary.

 

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I find that among the republicans, there is a far more open minded group. Democrats teach one thing. "Man is the lousy stinking SOB in charge of global climate and he is ruining Earth."

I brought today, one more author talking in this very important issue.

Let's get to his science then.
https://judithcurry.com/2017/04/30/...locene-climate-variability-part-a/#more-23015

Read the science and I leave you with the conclusions.

 

Amicus Robert, sed magis amica veritas.

I glanced through it and came to the conclusion that it is not science, but it is pseudoscience; and I don’t care if it is ( R) or ( D) or who I voted for.

There must be there a litmus test which should let one see if it is science or pseudoscience, and the test must not depend on party affiliation, must it?

Both Republicans and Democrats say one should see if the scientific method is followed.

I agree with both of them.

Mrs. Curry chooses the same scientific method as both Republicans and Democrats do.

It is a fake one.

It is exactly the method of Medieval Xn Theology.

Newton, a Xn Theologian, made so called scientific revolution by totally rejecting the method of Medieval Xn Theology.

Mrs. Curry is just another contra-revolutionary.





P. S.





I donated to and voted for McCain and I am glad he was not elected.

I voted for Trump and I am glad he was elected, but I don't feel at all like jumping in joy. Generally I was voting against McCain.

We will see if I did another mistake.

We all do mistakes in our lives, don't we?

 

The two papers you blamed Curry for were done by other scientists.

 

I understand that, Robert.

And I don’t blame anybody, neither other PhDs nor Mrs. Curry.

I just ask questions.

I gladly answer questions if I am asked.

I don’t run away.

As a rule I don’t get answers to my questions.

Like to this one:

There must be a litmus test which should let one see if it is science or it is pseudoscience, and the test must not depend on party affiliation, must it?

http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-curry-corner.502892/#post-1067410866

 

Judith Curry is a Climate DENIER.
One of several BLOGS that do so... along with ie, Anthony Watts' WUWT/Wattsupwiththat.

Do you plan to RE-BLOG this stuff daily?
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Not daily but she is a very respected climate scientist. So here goes.
https://judithcurry.com/2017/12/31/week-in-review-56/#more-23725

 

What does that make you? She does not deny climate nor do I deny Climate.

I rather enjoy discussing why Man played no role when the Great Lakes formed, yet look at those enormous magnificent bodies of water. If you saw Yosemite, imagine the valley full of a Glacier yet carved with no help from man. But what about the vast sheet of ice once over the upper states including down to where NY City is. Where were the humans melting that ice.

They love to gloat saying this year was our hottest. But about the cold, the ice and snow. You still want to tell me the record cold is a sign it is my fault it is so cold? Last time it got this cold in NY City was in 1909.

So tell me why you blame man one more time?

 

What is good about Mrs. Curry is that when she says something, she backs it up. With facts.

 

Ah! Fossil fuels favourite climate misinformed!!

https://www.desmogblog.com/judith-curry

She has made enough money off of big oil

 

Why is it that if one leans far left wing, they claim scientists report on climate due to some condition they call big oil?

 

Growing your own vegetables is a healthy, nutritious and delicious way to help the environment and get something out of it. The bigger the garden, the more benefits to the environment. NASA used to have some infrared or some kind of images which showed brightness coming off of plants during the growing season. It's amazing how much they will absorb during the growing season.

 

'Plant more trees'

No ****, sherlock.

This is the sort of climate science I can get behind. Warming, cooling, anthropomorphic or not, planting trees is a great idea.