The Defense Rests: GOP Leaders Reportedly Considering Not Calling a Single Witness

Your geese.

I'm not chasing.

 

I wonder who convinced Trump that Tweeting THIS Was a Good Idea?

Last Thursday, President Trump tweeted that the former vice president and his son would both be among those who would testify in a Senate impeachment trial. "We will have Schiff, the Bidens, Pelosi and many more testify, and will reveal, for the first time, how corrupt our system really is,"

Kellyanne, Miller, Hannity, Dobbs, Pirro?

How could Trump have even POSSIBLY thought that Tweeting something so Utterly Absurd (and UNREALISTIC) was a "Good Idea"?

Puzzling. :smh:

 

The bloke could tweet that the Earth is flat and his very many devotees would suck it up. It is that simple. Team USA has a problem.

 

Shouldn't Democrats, as the supposedly righteous party be looking for righteous members of its cause? Or is everything okay as long as Trump is impeached/removed/defeated?

 

Dems shelved their subpoenas. They were in a hurry.

 

The IG report does a couple of things.

Proves Nunes memo was spot on and Schiffs was full of lies.

Absolutely destroys the media. They are getting hammered on Twitter.

 

I believe you are right!

 

and it was different in there was clear evidence he lied before Congress. Not just hunches and presumptions. I saw it live on TV with my own eyes.

 

I'm not going to read through the entire thread, but who do you think the Senate even could legitimately call as a "witness" here?

I'm assuming they won't call anybody who will confirm what Trump was saying on the core issue - including Mulvaney, Bolton, Pompeo, Perry, and Americas Clown Rudy...

Morrison, who will say (again) he didn't detect anything illegal on the call?? Yawn

Somebody from OMB who will say they didn't violate the Impound Control Act with their new clever accounting methodology?

The only defense I see is "What he did isn't impeachable", not that "He didn't do what he did"

 

Trump has refused to go before Congress because he is incapable of telling the truth.

 

the house can impeach a president because his tie is red. That is a political process. The senate can vote to convict and remove from office, or acquit and not remove from office. That is it.

 

no they aren't. his motives for breaking the law are irrelevant.

they most likely will call witnesses, just not any of the irrelevant witnesses you guys are clamoring for them to call. They are not able to.

 

I have not commented much about the invalid impeachment proceedings conducted by the very inept House democrat clowns. What I did comment about recently, and it was to you was that I thought the first action of the US Senate will be a Motion to Dismiss. Since reading 2 lame articles of impeachment the house came up with, I am convinced even more that will be their first action. They may vote to table the motion. I doubt they call any fact witnesses even though Trump say that is what he wants. The senate will not give democrats much if any opportunity to sway from the miscarriage of justice the have drafted in their articles of impeachment.

What is Obstruction of Congress? There is no such legal definition. Abuse of power is also ridiculous and exactly what the house clowns have exhibited in their laughable kangaroo court. Their foolish efforts are invalid and will not stand. Expect a very short Senate trial.

 

great so any future dem pres can be impeached if ignoring a subpoena. Obama would’ve been impeached!

 

No, it really does not.

Even if Trump had explicit and undeniable proof that Hunter Biden was guilty of a felony, then the proper course of action is still to relay that information to a domestic investigative agency and let them start an investigation and to let them make the request of a foreign government if they decide that such a request is necessary.

Hunter Biden has absolutely zero knowledge of Trump's arguably impeachable conduct. His behavior has zero relevance to Trump's arguably impeachable conduct.

 

Yes, the House had that option.

 

A motion to dismiss is even less likely given the numbers in play. You simply are not going to get 51 of the 53 GOP senators to agree with a motion to dismiss.

My prediction is that the Senate Trial will last about a month.

 

boy that’s not a rabbit hole the founders warned about. Political impeachment over subpoena that wasn’t even ruled on by the courts! You know the way all legal disputes are handled? I bet this obstruction gets sent to courts and eventually removed as a charge. Common sense stuff

 

The Courts don’t have the jurisdiction to remove Impeachment charges. Impeachment is a Congressional power outlined in the Constitution.

 

So you need a simple majority to obtain any specific witness and the VP can not act as a tiebreaker.

I think it is much more likely that 3 GOP Senators would join a united Democratic group to request the testimony of individuals who have personal knowledge and have spoken about such publicly, like Mulvaney and Giuliani, than it is you will see 51/53 GOP senators agree that we should see testimony from those without first hand knowledge of Trump's conduct.

With that said, I think the chance of those taking place is still only like a 30%.

 

*By Trump and those who agree with his conspiracy theories.

 

If you can get a majority of Congress to agree, then yea, that's a possibility (always has been).

 

Yes, it really does crush it. Trump is protecting American citizens and we already have an open investigation going on in Ukraine and a criminal investigation open into the Obama Administration, of which, Joe Biden was a part of. Hunter Biden being a coke snorting drug user is also caught up in the investigation due to personally benefiting from his Father's position as VP of the United States.

Trump has every right to look into this and all of his actions have been proven to be correct. It's just that Trump hating democrat (like Goldman) donors and members trying to stop Trump in the government, like Pelosi, Schiff, Biden and Nadler, are trying desperately to cover up and bury their misdeeds and crimes.

 

Hunter Biden joined the Burisma Board in 2014. Joe Biden got the corrupt prosecutor fired in 2016. He told the story of that firing in January of 2018.

Trump authorized financial aid to Ukraine in 2017, 2018, and 2019. Trump decided to hold up the military aid because of his desire for an announcement of investigation ONLY in 2019.

That decision took place right after Biden declared his candidacy for the 2020 election. That decision took place right after Trump's internal polling showed that he would lose massively to Biden. That decision took place in the year before Trump ran for re-election and was made SOLELY because Trump wanted a personal political benefit.

 

Thanks for stating what we all know in the Joe Biden had a firm hand in getting rid of the prosecutor that was investigating Hunter Biden, who was only on the board because Joe Biden was VP of the United States at the time. So we have Joe Biden illegally using his position to get Hunter on the board and then protect him by threatening Ukraine to withhold BILLIONS in aid unless the prosecutor who was investigating Hunter was fired.

These are real crimes. Joe Biden and his son (who snorts coke) need to explain and be held accountable. The American people are lucky to have someone like Trump and his staff that are uncovering all of this crime.

Wait until we get the DOJ to go after Joe Biden for getting his son millions from China too. That story has yet to be told in it's entirety.