The divider-in-chief

You have intelligence people??!?

OK. You have convinced me.

I am very, very afraid.

 

You didn't explain at all. You said the Europeans followed us into a number of useless wars, two of which we lost, none of which enhanced US security. Not that they supplied more than a token presence.

If you don't have the time to explain then don't bother to make the claim. We are supposed to be having a discussion.

 

Thank you. Coming from you, that's a real compliment.

 

"Trump said" followed the quote.

 

Yes, and those wars involved our national security, not Europe's. It pleases me that you agree with me on that, which is my point, not the justification for the wars.

Books have been written about each of those wars. Explaining here the causes and reasons why the U.S. became involved would be fatuous.

 

The mark of a bully. And like all bullies, he is scared to death and going NUTZ now with the pressure.

Bully.

Not just a bully, but a case of very poor judgement and an inability to keep his own emotional dysfunction out of it.

Or his emotional dysfunction. It is a fact that deep-seated long-term emotional disturbances, which carry over from childhood, disrupt judgement and can easily make a person appear to be very stupid.

 

Markets. Military bases.

 

Markets are a good answer. But how do our military bases protect the European markets from the Trans-Asian Railway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Asian_Railway

 

I'm in the top 47% who disagree.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...t-say-media-dividing-americans-spreading-hate

 

That's not what you asked. You asked how US security is tied to European security. I'm not interested in expanding this mini-discussion.

 

Do you remember the Chris Matthews interview - in which he asked Trump about nukes. Trump said that he would not take them off the table with respect to Europe. Those are dangerous words, and the world was listening. So why is it so ridiculous that Macron said they need to defend themselves from the US? He would be a weak leader of his own country if he didn't - in the face of a US President who said that he wouldn't take nukes off the table against Europe.

I respect Reps who support Trump for his policies. I may not agree with them, but I respect people's views of his policies. But again and again, we see a president who uses offensive language and behavior as what can only be described as sport. Toward other world leaders (except Putin), against historical and proven allies, against American politicians and members of the media who challenge him. Often, he exhibits this behavior when he clearly doesn't understand the issue involved, as was evident in his initial tweet about the California wild fires. It is difficult to respect someone who demonstrates this kind of behavior.

 

Pretty myopic view... To put it as nicely as I can.

 

But realistic, if the other parties are not paying their fair share.

 

Does vindictive, paranoid, narcissistic, sociopathic count as an emotional dysfunction?

 

The press is simply reporting the divisive character of the Trump administration. So, they get blamed for the divisiveness.

 

His questions have been asked and answered several times. One can only conclude he is a little slow.

 

You have to understand something about Trump. He is not the least bit interested in governance. His background is reality T.V. He thinks of himself as a reality T.V. star.

In that role truth is immaterial. What is important to him -- first and foremost -- is attention. He must always be in the forefront of the day's news. He must create controversies every day, and he intentionally lies and exaggerates. He calls it truthful hyperbole. Add that to the fact that Trump and his family truly believe they are above the law and he holds political beliefs that belong in the 20th Century (nationalism) and the U.S. has a real problem.

It will take years to reset American values, domestic policy, and foreign policy after Trump leaves the White House.

 

Trump feels that rules, laws, even our Constitution do not apply to him. The Whitaker appointment proves that point. The DOJ had rules of succession that complied with the law and our Constitution.

Trump completely ignored those rules and appointed a political hack who agreed with him regarding Mueller and he fully expected Whitaker to muffle Mueller.

That is unlikely now because Trump was as subtle as a sledgehammer.

 

Trumpisms:

"I did not know he [Whitaker] took views on the Mueller investigation as such."

"If you look at those statements -- those statements that can -- they really can be viewed really either way."
"It is time for Rosenstein, who is the acting attorney general for the purposes of this investigation, to order Mueller to limit the scope of his investigation to the four corners of the order appointing him special counsel. If he doesn't, then Mueller's investigation will eventually start to look like a political fishing expedition." -- Matt Whitaker, November 2017.

"And all these people that say I'm going to end the investigation, you know, they've been saying that now for -- how long has this witch hunt gone on? It's gone on for, what?"

"There was no collusion whatsoever, and the whole thing is a scam."

• 191 criminal counts
• 35 people/entities charged
• 6 people pleaded guilty
• 1 found guilty in trial

'I would say probably. Probably. I mean, I can change my mind, but probably."

Good lord, this is our President.

 

Trump fans want nothing to do with this thread. Do you blame them?

 

As evidence piles up pointing to the Saudi crown prince’s responsibility in the brutal killing of the dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi, Trump has only hardened his refusal to concede any possibility that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) had a hand in the crime.

This has happened before. At the Helsinki summit regarding Russian interference in our election, Trump rejected American intelligence and agreed with the communist dictator of Russia, Vladimir Putin. Trump said he did not "see any reason why" Russia would be responsible. "I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today," Trump said.

Speaking at a rally, Trump explained how he fell in love with the North Korean communist dictator, Kim Jong Un. "I was really tough and so was he, and we went back and forth. And then we fell in love, OK? No, really, he wrote me beautiful letters, and they’re great letters. We fell in love.”

Now it is happening all over again, and the issue involves the murder of a Washington Post journalist and an American resident whose children are American citizens.

 

Putin has to be very pleased with his choice for the American Presidency.

Once again Trump is rejecting American intelligence and believing the word of an autocrat instead much like he believed communist dictators as in Putin, Jim Jong Un, and Xi Jinping.

In siding with MBS, Trump has angered key members of his own party, even stalwart Trump supporters like Sens. Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul.
"When we lose our moral voice, we lose our strongest asset," Graham said.

Trump's attack on the other institutions of our government is now complete. He has now attacked the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts. Trump attacked the judicial branch when he said that a judge who ruled against him was an "Obama judge." Roberts took exception to Trump's comment and, in a historic move, the Chief Justice rebuked the President of the United States.

"We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges," Roberts said in a statement responding to Trump's comments. "What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for."

Trump fired back. "Sorry Chief Justice John Roberts, but you do indeed have 'Obama judges,' and they have a much different point of view than the people who are charged with the safety of our country. It would be great if the 9th Circuit was indeed an 'independent judiciary,' but if it is why......" Trump tweeted.

And on it goes.

In addition to Putin's pleasure at this development, Trump's fans are celebrating as well. There is now complete chaos on all levels of the federal government. That is why they voted for him in the first place, and why they continue to support him despite his many ludicrous decisions and pathetic statements and tweets.