Oh, I am quite sure, everyone who posted here and read your posts with nothing to back up the claim has been amused as well.
Our eyes and our experience tell us the earth is flat and motionless, and everything in the sky revolves around us, but when we cease to believe our own eyes and experience, we have to prostrate ourselves at the feet of these very suto scientists who are blinding us, treat them like experts, astronomical priests, who have special knowledge only they can access, such as the hubble telescope. So by brainwashing us with something so gigantic and fundamental, it actually makes every other kind of lesser indoctrination a piece of cake. Earth being the flat fixed center of the universe around which everything in the heavens revolves, gives a special importance and significance, not only to earth but to us humans, the most intelligent among the intelligent designers designs. By turning earth into a spinning ball thrown around the sun and shot through infinite space from a Godless big bang, they turn humanity into a random meaningless, purposeless, accident of a blind dumb universe. So it's like drama based mind control, beating the divinity out of us with their mental manipulations. People are always asking why do they do this, other than the obvious profit motive, nasa being the biggest black budget blackhole in existence, ()()()()ing handing over 30 billion dollars in taxpayer money, specifically for the fake moon landing alone, now a days 100's of billions. Not just nasa but rasa and all the other fake space organizations around the world. Giving CGI images for 100's of billions of dollars, so this modern atheist, big bang, heliocentric, globe earth, chance, evolution, paradigm, spiritually controls humanity by removing God or any sort of intelligent design, and replaces purposeful divine creation with half hazard random cosmic coincidence. And so by removing earth from the motionless center of the universe, these masons have moved us physically and metaphysically from a place of supreme importance to one of complete nihilistic indifference. If the earth is the center of the universe than the idea of God, creation and a purpose for human existence are splendid. But if the earth is just one of billions of planets revolving around billions of stars and billions of galaxies, than the idea of God creation and a specific purpose for earth and human existence become highly implausible. So repetitively indoctrinating us into their scientific materialist sun worship, not only do we lose faith in anything beyond the material, we gain absolute faith in materiality, superficiality, status, selfishness, heathenism, and consumerism. If there is no God and everyone is just an accident, then all that really matters is me, me, me, me. So they turn Madonna the mother of God into the material girl living in a material world, with their rich powerful corporations, and their sick sun god logos, selling idols to worship, slowly taking over the world while we passively believe their science built for their politicians, buy their products, listen to their music, watch their movies, all sacrificing our souls at the altar of materialism. Eric Dubai
No they don't. Only for not very smart people. Trollin trollin trollin, keep them lies a rollin, rawhiiiiide The earth isn't the center of the universe.
It's the same reason why the weather man says "the sun rose at 6 am". It's from our own perspective. BTW if the earth is flat then how are we standing on earth instead of floating off? - - - Updated - - - The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. That's from the Bible.
That is false. Anyone who has ever sailed out into the ocean knows that as you sail away, tall items (like buildings) don't fade into the distance; they shrink below the horizon. Sail from Miami to the Bahamas and you don't see the skyscrapers just slowing getting smaller, you see them sinking below the horizon. First the bottoms of the buildings are blocked by the horizon, then the horizon rises higher and higher till only the tops of the buildings are visible, then you can only see the antennas, then they slip below the horizon. This phenomenon is observable from anywhere on Earth where there is a sufficient body of water. If the Earth were flat, you'd see buildings simply fade into the distance. Furthermore, as someone pointed out earlier, look out the window of a jet airliner at altitude. You can see the curvature of the sphere. Additionally, if the earth were flat, it would be definition have some sort of edge. Where is this edge? On the flat part of the earth, the horizon would be 180%, if you were on the edge, the horizon must be something greater than 180% (depending upon how sharp the edge is. If the earth were flat, we'd observe longer hours of sunlight on certain places on Earth at the same latitude. No such variation has been reported, to my knowledge. This is conclusive proof the Earth is not flat, even if we ignore the thousands of "fake" photos of the sphere. The premise of the author's argument is inherently flawed. Again, this is false. Not everything in the sky "revolves around us" even if we were to posit that the earth is motionless. Find Polaris (the North Star) and observe it through the night. It does not move, but remains in a fixed position in the sky. Furthermore, you can observe that as you move closer to the equator, the closer Polaris is to the horizon, and if you go south of the Equator, you can not see Polaris at all (the distance depending upon seasonal variation). If you go farther north, you can observe Polaris higher above the horizon, until if you were at the north pole, it would be directly above you. This happens gradually and steadily. If you measure the angle of Polaris above the horizon, it will tell you your latitude within a degree. How can this be with a flat Earth? If the Earth were flat, Polaris would always be in the same place in the sky, regardless of where you were. (The same phenomenon happens in the Souther hemisphere with the Southern Cross, though it is not so closely over the Southern pole. The fact that the angle of Polaris above the horizon changes as you change latitude proves the Earth is not flat, but a sphere. Furthermore, observe the night sky, and you'll note that the stars closest to Polaris move in small circles around Polaris, while the stars closer to the equator move in much larger arcs around the Earth. Orion rises in the east and goes overhead and sets in the west. But Cassiopeia circles the Polaris, as does the Big Dipper. You can observe these consellations circling the north star all night, and observe they do not revolve around the Earth but around the North Star. In fact, if you observe closely, in the Norther Hemisphere, you will see that every star revolves around Polaris. Not the Earth. Again, the author's premise is proved conclusively wrong by observation with the naked eye. From observation on Earth, either the heavens are revolving around Polaris, or the Earth is spinning and Polaris is directly above the (North) pole of the spinning sphere. Either way, the Earth is not the center of the heavens. No. We have to cease to believe our own eyes and experience to believe the Biblical proposition that the Earth is flat and the center of the universe. We don't have to rely on scientists at all. How strange a world it must be to believe that so many scores of thousands of astronauts, scientists, politicians and others have engaged in this massive, huge, lie and conspiracy, solely to get some money for research. Surely there are easier, less risky ways to get money, no? Scientist get a decent pay, but they are hardly in the Trump category of wealth. There are far easier frauds to perpetrate than faking pictures of the Earth and moon landings. Just open a university, for example. Do you believe jet airlines are a fiction? How about rocket launches and the space shuttle? All fabrications and part of this giant conspiracy? The tens of thousands of ordinary people who witnessed these rocket launches -- are they part of the conspiracy too? Our eyes and experience conclusively tell us that the Earth is a spinning sphere and that the stars are not revolving around it, but when we cease to believe our own eyes and experience, we have to prostrate ourselves at the feet of these very psuedo theologists who are blinding us, treat them like experts, astronomical priests, who have special knowledge only they can access, such as talking to God. So by brainwashing us with something so gigantic and fundamental, it actually makes every other kind of lesser indoctrination a piece of cake. While some may want to believe that we are the center of the universe to reinforce our own sense of self-supreme importance, the degree of the self deception in which they must engage to do so is truly mind boggling. And hence we get threads like this one.
Absolutely false. Where did you get such a notion? You're line of sight to the horizon is about that. You distance of sight is far farther. You can observe the (tops) of the skyscrapers of Miami 20 miles out into the ocean before they sink over the horizon. Or is it the buildings are revolving around my boat? Why do you say that before the curvature of the earth starts? If the Earth was flat, you'd be able to see to see the horizon to infinity, not just a few miles, right? Why can you only see a few miles to the horizon? Why is it the higher up you are, the farther you can see to the horizon? Because the horizon is curving away from you. You've conclusively proved that the earth is not flat with your own eyes and experience. You can. It's just too subtle to easily perceive at ground level. However, the higher you go, the more arc you can see. You can clearly see the curvature of the sphere in an airliner at cruising altitude. What about the numerous other examples I've given you how your own eyes and experience prove to you the Earth is not flat? Do you care to address those things, or are you conceding the fact that the observable proof shows the Earth is not flat but a sphere? o Why do tall buildings slowly sink under the horizon instead of fade away in the distance? o Why is the horizon curved when you look out the window of an airplane at altitude? o Why is there no edge to the Earth where we observe longer hours of sunlight if it is flat? o Why does Polaris not move in the sky if all the stars revolve around Polaris? o Why does Cassiopeia and the Big Dipper revolve around Polaris and not the Earth if all the heavens revolve around Earth? o Why, without exception, do stars near the Equator make large arcs around the sky while those closer to the poles make small arcs around the pole if the Earth is flat? o Why does the position of Polaris in the sky vary with latitude if the Earth is flat? o Do you believe that all rocket launches are a fictions and the scores of thousands involved in one or witnessing one are liars? o Do you believe jet airliners are a fiction and that everyone who has flown in one and observed the curvature of the earth (and no edge) are liars? Again, your own eyes and experience tell you, and prove to you, the Earth is not flat. They tell you that there is not a conspiracy of scores of thousands of ordinary people who are lying for some mysterious reason. They tell you that the error is not science, but the ancients who wrote the the book you rely upon, and those who have ample motive to keep you deceived in your beliefs.
This is absolutely wrong. Where did you get such a ignorant idea? From the flat earth websites you hang at? Do you just make it up? When a ship or a building sinks over the the horizon, you can't see it regardless of how powerful a telescope you have. Because the object has not faded into a tiny point in the distance. The object has disappeared over the horizon, and you cannot see it because the curvature of the Earth is blocking your view. What you're proving in this thread is that your beliefs are belied by ignorance, willful or otherwise. Are you seriously trying to claim that no ship or aircraft has every circumnavigated the globe? Large telescopes are built to look into the sky, not the earth. Furthermore, if you want to observe the curvature of the Earth, you don't use a telescope because a telescope narrows the field of view, reducing the visible arc.
You have no idea what your talking about. Why don't you do a little research first? Here, I found one only 39 seconds. Notice when he/she zooms out, then talk to me. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...8503CDBADC7AE5FC873F8503C&FORM=VDQVAP&fsscr=0
LOL, why would you say that? I've sailed miles out to sea and observed what I've stated numerous times. So could you, if you were really interested in the truth. I have researched it, it is basic knowledge needed by ocean going sailors, and personally observed the phenomenon. Every time I've gone out. So now you're relying on evidence of pictures and videos? I've proven to you the earth is a sphere by things you can observe yourself and without relying on pictures or videos. Take a boat from Miami (or anywhere else with tall skyscrapers) and go 10-20 miles out into the ocean and then talk to me. But as to your video, first of all, that boat isn't even a mile out, much less the 3 miles or so to the horizon. Second, even though it is not far to the shore, you can see that the lower part of the boat is in fact obscured by the horizon. You cannot see the bow waves or wake the boat is making, because it is blocked by the horizon, even though it is not more than a mile away. Sunken buildings? Massive flood?
You know your pictures are fake. You are part of the conspiracy of the entire world to lie to jrr777. The whole world is against him. How terrible to live like that. - - - Updated - - - You know your pictures are fake. You are part of the conspiracy of the entire world to lie to jrr777. The whole world is against him. How terrible to live like that.
Unlike the shots from satellites or the space station or astronauts or whatever, these are photographs that anyone can take and the image can be verified by simply going out in a boat a few miles from a shore with tall buildings. If he is really interested in truth, as he says, he can verify these things I and others have pointed out himself, and doesn't have to rely on photographs or videos or what I or anyone else tells him. If he's really interested in the the truth.
“Common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down by the mind before your reach eighteen.” – Albert Einstein
When you are looking at these pictures, are you using your head, or someone else's. The water appearing to curve is not what it seems. I have studied both these pictures. All that water is below your feet, yet it appears to be eye level. This is perspective, draw a line from your eyes to the target, then draw one from your feet at an angle up to the one you previously drew. The line coming from your feet will meet the line from your eyes at the horizon level. This is what makes the water appear to be as high as your eyes. It has nothing to do with a curve, and you will never see past that point. Notice the sail boat, now if there is a curve in front of those buildings, would not the people on the sailboat see the same curve when looking to the left of the boat. Or picture that boat being 10 miles to your right. Now as they look to the left in your direction, they are going to see the same thing with the water. It will appear to them as well, that at where your standing the earth appears to curve. But there is no curve, your standing there. This means it is nothing but perspective. Skip to 5:15 http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...C94F72E636C10D18FB97C94F72E636C10D1&FORM=VIRE
I called it. You claim they are fake. LOL. What a troll. Ever hear about depth and eye perception? The sailboat is much closer that the buildings.
That's why I said to the left of the sailboat. Are you illiterate? You didn't even read. You probably didn't watch the video either, it explains it better. Quit asking for evidence if you do not research it.
It makes no sense whatsoever. The water does not "ramp up". How can the water "ramp up"? Massive flood? You're contradicting yourself. You pointed out that the higher up you are, the farther you can see to the horizon. If you head is higher up that ground level, that would let you see more of the buildings, not less, right? If the earth were flat, your line of sight would never intersect with the horizon. You'd be able to see to infinity because there would be no obstruction. You'd be able to see the entire building regardless of your distance from it because nothing would obstruct it. Yet there it is, the horizon blocking those buildings from site. Conclusive proof that the Earth is not flat, your eyes and experience tell you, without having to rely on photos or videos. Go out in a boat and you'll see for yourself. And you haven't even attempted to address these other proofs: o Why is the horizon curved when you look out the window of an airplane at altitude? o Why is there no edge to the Earth where we observe longer hours of sunlight if it is flat? o Why does Polaris not move in the sky if all the stars revolve around the Earth? o Why does Cassiopeia and the Big Dipper revolve around Polaris and not the Earth if all the heavens revolve around Earth? o Why, without exception, do stars near the Equator make large arcs around the sky while those closer to the poles make small arcs around the pole if the Earth is flat? o Why does the position of Polaris in the sky vary with latitude if the Earth is flat? o Why is there sunlight on only half of the Earth at one time if the Earth is flat? o Do you believe that all rocket launches are a fictions and the scores of thousands involved in one or witnessing one are liars? o Do you believe jet airliners are a fiction and that everyone who has flown in one and observed the curvature of the earth (and no edge) are liars?
Your argument about what's left of the boat from the boats perspective makes no sense. No I won't watch some fake video. It's not real. What is real is go and find out for yourself. Dozens upon dozens of people have given you evidence. All you can counter with is they lie. So I counter with your fake website lies.
Uhh....we have been in orbit. You do know this right? We do have satellites orbiting the planet. Unreal. AA
The water only ramp's up do to perspective. It's not that the water is really ramped up, use your head a little. If you think you can see the curvature from an airplane, watch this video. Notice the sun and the moon. And remember a go pro camera is going to produce a curvature on whatever it records, and when it is not steady it does all sorts of distortions. The reason they use them is because the have a wider range. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...83F0005B3C2D774C6BAE83F00&fsscr=0&FORM=VDMCNL
He's not saying they're fake. He's claiming that somehow, the water "ramps up" to obstruct the view of the buildings. I'm wondering how he can explain this "ramp up" phenomenon without there being a massive flood.
