The existence of a creator.

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  1. FreeWare

    FreeWare Active Member Past Donor

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    If a grey squirrel found a watch and presumed that it always existed, I think the first red squirrel who heard about it would ask why grey squirrels always jump to conclusions.
     
  2. Incorporeal

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    Then I will pose the same question that I posed to another poster: What are the component parts that constitute something being 'valid'? Repeating yourself any number of times does not necessarily make a meaningful response. In fact if you are truly 'repeating' yourself, then that repetition can be considered redundancy.


    Intellectually honest? Redundancy is not an honest approach... so quit being redundant by repeating yourself and give an intellectually honest response.
     
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    You need not do the homework, because you reveal yourself to be incapable of understanding it. You can just draw pictures instead.
     
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    I can prove that he is not being sarcastic and ridiculing. He couldn't be. He's incapable of both of them.
     
  5. charliedk

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    how come everyone keeps answering a question with a question or an answer with a question or a question with an answer related to another question..:party:
     
  6. Independent77

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    Why do you think?
     
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    That is not an explanation. That is merely two words, which offer nothing as far as how such would be accomplished by 'gravity, next'.


    If a thread bogs down due to my being a Sophist and because I use the art of sophistry, then that would indicate that the others might not know how to deal with a Sophist and his/her sophistry. But thank you again for being so persistent with that compliment.
     
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    sophistry

    You admit to being tricky, superficially plausible and fallacious. Awesome. I will book mark this for future reference.
     
  9. FreeWare

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    Sorry to hear that. To most people it is an explanation.
     
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    Is that really the best that you can offer Freeware? I had better expectations of an intelligent response form you.
     
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    what is your source of any gods success rate..I'd have to set it at 0%..
    and it just keeps getting worse..
     
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    While 99% is a bit low, the point stands well enough. It's probably more like 99.99%.
     
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    In most cases, natural geometries based on Fibonacci sequences are found in situations where that geometric arrangement is efficient for the living thing. It's actually evidence of evolution, not intentional design. This is what a lot of creationists have a hard time understanding--mathematically interesting patterns are not inherently evidence of planning or design.
     
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    God is easy to disprove. Simply talk to god and wait for the reply. When he does not. Voila! non existance.

    Although he may still exist but not like you. So always that as well.
     
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    Then what you are suggesting with your comments is the following:

    1: evolution as a concept is self sustaining;
    2: evolution as a concept has the self instilled capacity of reason and intelligence (able to form things unrelated to one another in identical mathematical patterns);
    3: These interesting mathematical patterns, though interesting are nothing to give further consideration to (they "just are")


    And you attempt to make no explanation of the relationship other than what you have suggested above... mathematically interesting... Very coy on your part.
     
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    Then you have no source for that 99 or 99.99% figures? Interesting.
     
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    Who mentioned any success rate for God? Not me. Are you hallucinating or are you speaking to someone who might have suggested such a success rate?
     
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    A awful lot of people have hearing problems and some are even totally deaf. That fact, of not hearing a response is not an indicator that a response was not given.
     
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    Correct. God might exist. Just because we've never seen santa, he may still be real, and I mean that seriously. My position however, is that of irrelevance of God - why should we care about God's existence when clearly it has no impact on our daily lives and God's sense of morality is obsolete?
     
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    I meant, God might not LIKE you. If this creator exists. He is a clown. A evil clown. Laughing at his own creations. Causing all the problems we are faced with. In all probablity your god (if anyone does believe) not just ignores your very whims, also hates you with a almighty majestic godly passion.
     
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    LOL I see the confusion, and yes I completely agree. In fact if he were not an entirely cruel creature, and the universe's cruelty was not his fault, this would make him incapable of controlling the universe, which would make him not a God at all.
     

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