The Failed War on Drugs

Granny says, "Dat's right - Sao Paulo runnin' alla crackheads outta town...

Brazil police clear new 'Crackland' in Sao Paulo
Mon, 12 Jun 2017 : Sao Paulo crack addicts and homeless people fled a similar operation nearby nearly a month ago.

 

Teen use in States that have legalized weed, has gone down.

 

Absolutely. The war on drugs became the Clintons' personal war on blacks, or as Hillary would call them, Super Predators. Hillary and Bill repurposed money earmarked to educate blacks so they could escape the inner city to build prisons for their mass incarceration. It was laughable that Hillary ran on a platform to reverse the human tragedy she and Bill caused with their 1994 Crime Law. No wonder she couldn't get them to vote 6 times for her, an Obama accomplishment that was safe in 2016.

 

You HAVE to be kidding.
Taking things from government and privatizing them so cronies can make millions is a plank of the GOP platform!
It is the GOP that maintains government (of the people by the people) can do nothing right - and when they have control, as now, they prove they can do nothing.

 

Prohibition has been tried numerous times, and numerous times it has failed miserably. Perhaps it is finally time for the society of the united states to experience the full, overwhelming weight and cost of their desire to see illicit substances made legal for recreational use, and comprehend just what they are asking for. As those indulging in such substances die off in large numbers through overdosing, and left to decay where others must walk through their daily lives, the significance of their decisions will be made quite clear to them. No one will be able to claim ignorance, and that they had no idea of just how dangerous the use of such substances was. Eventually there will be no one left to become addicted or die of overdoses, and the matter will solve itself. That is ultimately what is desired, is it not?

If individuals wish to knowingly engage in reckless and criminal behavior, they will suffer the consequences of their actions one way or another. They are obviously being done no favors by their government fighting so hard to keep them alive through prohibitions and regulations, so perhaps it is time for a change of pace, and the consequences of their decisions made as plain as day. When children have to see their parents, siblings, and friends laying dead in the streets and on sidewalks as their bodies decompose while others have to walk over them, they will understand the true societal cost of the use of illicit substances. They will no longer question what is wrong with the recreational use of illicit substances, as they will understand why such narcotics were prohibited in the first place.

If the public does not wish to accept that there are certain substances that should not be used, then allowing them to experience the folly of their decisions is the most logical course of action. The more the matter is resisted and fought, the more they are glamorized and desired by the public. It would be the most logical course of action to engage in, seeing as how everything else has failed.

 

1. Sending people to prison for using drugs seems like a wasted effort. Drug use is rampant in prisons and the despair of prison can easily push a person down the path of addiction.

2. AA is a faith based treatment since it's efficacy is unknown and apparently unmeasurable. It does reference a god and requires submission to that god (however you choose to define that god).

3. I think that experiments should be done in North America to test the efficacy of policies like the one tried in Portugal. It's pretty controversial but this aspect of the war on drugs which focuses on putting people in jail, coupled with the declining use of the jury system in favour of plea bargaining, seems a pretty well-tested failure at the point.

 

The part where it's illegal to possess narcotics or sell them so they can't be taxed and regulated, creating a black market which causes rampant crime through secondary effects. The part where civil asset forfeiture generally over drugs seizes more property than regular thieves steal all year, mostly without conviction or even charges being filed.
Those parts.

 

And god help you if you try to plead not guilty: you can spend years in jail waiting for a trial so most people plea bargain so they'll be out faster.

 

Big cocaine bust on the high seas...

Coast Guard Brings 18 Tons of Seized Cocaine to San Diego
16 Jun 2017 — A U.S. Coast Guard cutter has brought approximately 18 tons (16.3 metric tons) of seized cocaine to San Diego.

See also:

Coast Guard Arrests Four, Seizes 3,545 Pounds of Cocaine
30 Mar 2017 | Law-enforcement officials say they seized 3,545 pounds of cocaine from a drug-smuggling vessel off the coast of Puerto Rico.

 

Prostitution should be legal and monitored by health authorities on a regular basis.

Marijuana and other recreational drugs should be legally sold through licensed facilities with all of the same restrictions that already exist for sales to minors, etc.

For both of the above there should be taxes collected at the state level.

Those taxes should be used to deal with the small subset of society that have addictive personalities.

Anyone dealing drugs illegally should get life without parole. This will mainly apply to prescription drug dealing since the recreational drugs will be sold through licensed vendors.

By eliminating the phony war on drugs and the unnecessary incarcerations will lower taxes as will the revenues generated by taxes on recreational drugs.

Win-win!

 

Hmmmm so you must agree then that Sessions recent actions are also a war on blacks then.

 

No. Sessions isn't a member of the party of slavery, the KKK, segregation, discrimination and economic bondage.

 

Haitian ex-coup leader sentenced to 9 years for laundering drug money...

Haitian ex-coup leader gets nine years in US prison
Fri, Jun 23, 2017 - A former Haitian coup leader and elected senator on Wednesday was sentenced to nine years in a US federal prison after pleading guilty to conspiring to launder drug money.

See also:

Mexico arrests Knights Templar Cartel leader 'El Cenizo' after shootout
June 22, 2017 -- Mexico's security authorities said Knights Templar Cartel leader Ignacio "El Cenizo" Rentería Andrade was arrested after a shootout in which two soldiers were injured.

 

I'm not personally against drugs being illegal or policed. What I do have a problem with, specifically, is Mandatory Minimum Sentencing.

That is beyond unconstitutional and removes a judges ability to give leniency when it's their job to determine what sort of sentencing is appropriate proportional to the crime committed.

 

WOW, we agree for the first time in history. Most likely won't be many of these but it's a start. The elitists are winning the war on drugs, this is exactly what they want. Kill off some of the useless non producers, weak consumers, pack the prisons, use more big pharm meds, line their pockets and push the NWO. Big brother isn't coming, he has been here and he is winning, while we drown in debt and addiction to cope with only surviving as a silver lining but don't worry big gov is here to "fix" the problems, just give up your rights and all will be taken care of.

 

"MARIJUANA QUOTES FROM FAMOUS PEOPLE"

http://eazysmoke.com/marijuana-quotes.htm

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."
- Albert Einstein quote on Hemp"

looking in a mirror wondering if he would be able to see his reflection if he was going the speed of light..... hmmmm

anything abused is bad for you, but like guns, Marijuana can also be good for you, depends how it is used and by whom

 

Hey, I'm not letting you get away with that; you just made that up. It's not true. The facts are clear, what you just said is absolute bullshit. Not one word is actually true.

Heck, you aren't even close. It's not like the Netherlands is even close to the top, compared to the major producers of illicit drugs it's ****ing irrelevant.

 

Do you know why gay marriage and legal pot are occurring at the same time?

It's biblical! The bible says that if a man lays with another man, he shall be stoned.

 

Perhaps it is due to one needing to be in a significantly inebriated stated in order to actually do such.

 

I would have to be more drunk than I've ever been...which means passed out cold.

 

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or you're actually serious.
"Netherlands major European producer of synthetic drugs, including ecstasy, and cannabis cultivator; important gateway for cocaine, heroin, and hashish entering Europe; major source of US-bound ecstasy and a significant consumer of ecstasy; a large financial sector vulnerable to money laundering" - CIA World Factbook

Literally Google "Netherlands illicit drugs" and you'll see. Furthermore, I don't really see how this furthers your argument.

 

Our justice system is truly a joke, and that is on the idiotic voting public. Voters respond to the nonsense of "tough on crime." The hell with rehabilitation, the hell with addressing the problem. Fall for the fear mongering of the need for tougher sentencing that does nothing to prevent crimes. Oh, and the fact that even when people get out, they are destined to end up right back. Can't get a job, can't get a place to live, are treated like pariahs because they are ex felons.

It's a disgrace the mandatory minimum sentences. Plus the racial biases in our justice system where black people get the max sentence for drug charges while white people tend to get off or reduced sentences. The war on drugs basically was just a way to legally enslave more african americans (I recommend watching 13th on Netflix). Bill Clinton was very bad at this, he even admits it now.

But that was all the ploy to win the more conservative vote.

Nothing will ever get done when you have half the country who refuses to acknoweldge the root of the crime problem and live by fairy tales

 

The US has 25% of the worlds prison population with a small percentage of the world's population. Land of the free my ass. This should enrage everybody. It's an embarrassment and some people seem to be proud of it.

All to fund the prison industrial complex. What a disgrace

 

Brazil nabs drug kingpin Luiz Carlos 'White Head' da Rocha...

Brazil arrests notorious drug kingpin Luiz Carlos da Rocha
Sat, 01 Jul 2017: The alleged cocaine maker had evaded police for 30 years with plastic surgery and fake names.