The Game Changed in Venezuela Last Night

Venezuela has deteriorated into a complete police state with hunt downs of dissidents.
http://www.tapwires.com/2016/02/25/the-game-changed-in-venezuela-last-night-and-the-international-media-is-asleep-at-the-switch

The "socialists" are hunting people down in the streets.

Get a good look at it folks. This is what Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are pushing us towards.

If Trump has a brain in his head he will point to this and put Hillary Clinton's head on Hugo Chavez' body.
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vote Democrat

let them put liberal justices in the SCOTUS

buh bye 2nd Amendment

hello despotic rule

the people in VZ voted for this and they need to reminded over and over. It's now up to them to shed blood to try and take back their country but sadly, if they succeed, they're culture is such that competition and liberty are foreign to them and they will probably throw in with a dictator who is just as bad because it will be easier to do that. Liberty isn't easy and given my experiences running a business there, and not to paint with broad brush, but those who remained in VZ have more of an entitlement mentality. The ones who would fight and compete have already left the country.

This is personal to me as I know people who are there. I know people in surrounding countries who are trying to help. I recall when Obama was elected how some Venezuelans would tell me how the USA finally got smart. I argued back that their socialist empire could not be sustained and would not end well. I wish that I was wrong but history proves itself again.

 

I have always enjoyed these sorts of arguments about Venezuela.

Completely fictional, along the lines of "this is what the leftists want", despite no one ever saying anything remotely like that. It is liek showing pictures of Nazi death camps and claiming that is what x candidate wants. It means nothing, it is not true, but is sells well to like minded folks.

 

it's incremental and requires class warfare. When the majority of people eventually realize that all socialism can do is spread misery to more people, not make people's lives better; it's too late.

 

Sounds like pure, partisan projection to me, simply deriding others by associating them with something negative. Not necessarily true, not necessarily provable, but is sounds bad and makes those whom folks dislike look bad, so that is all that matters.

 

You can lie about where all the freebies lead all you want. We can see through your defense of socialism better than you can obfuscate it.

 

Okay

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Youre right, Socialists dont actually want that. They just think theyre smarter than everyone else, and they should be the ones who decides your life for you.

The reality is, socialist cant do anything better than you can do it yourself, for yourself.

 

What's 'partisan' about saying that? Where is socialism not spreading misery to some people?

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Just to clarify, I'm asking in Venezuela. They seem to be a socialist failure

 

So you think the Clintons won't resort to police state tactics?
Do the name Elian Gonzales ring any bells?

 

How does Norway fit into your equation?

 

I would daresay anyone, left or right, potentially would have their actions called "police state tactics" by folks.

 

Norway has one of the most fragile economies in the world. Here's why. Due to the taxes and the fair sharing funds, any move they make economically could have MAJOR impacts on it.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...y-risks-killing-its-own-economy/#348305475d86

This is just the latest gas and oil production mess

 

That's the best you got? Attempting to equate one with the other? That old saw about "well they all do it"?

That is the weakest, most pathetic thing you people use.
Excuse the behavior of one by pointing at somebody else that did it.
If your besties jumped off a cliff would you do it?
Socialists are like a bunch of Lemmings.

 

I see you beat me to it. Great job.
By all rights Norway shouldn't have a national debt at all.

 

Interesting.

Am I a socialist? I tend to think of myself more as a paleo-conservative/libertarian sort who is to the left on social issues, a supporter of the free market, with minimal government oversight.

But I guess I could be a socialist, if a socialist was those things, or if someone wanted to throw around the term as some sort of disparaging remark due to the patent failure of their own argument.

 

You can call yourself anything you want. A quick review of your posting history will easily reveal your political leanings.
Your defenses get weaker with every pathetic attempt.

 

Every economy is day to day in the world today.
Your fear of socialism is unfounded.The combination of socialism/capitalism will be the way of the world.

 

Why is it weak? What would you like to happen instead?

 

Nah, the left wants socialism, which is the system in place in Venezuela. They're just mad that this always seems to be the outcome.

 

all one has to do is look at the cesspool the EU has waded into to see the failure of socialist policies, progressive lemmings all racing for the cliff

issues caused by immigtration withouit integration , energy poverty and high unemployment from the global warming faux emergcy which poushed production to china where the environment is being raped, failed governments such as Greece. one success in human misery after the next

 

We have at least one socialist currently running for President. His message is selling with a good percentage of the country, as he has won over 20 states. Obviously socialists will not want Venezuela to be talked about, as it shows the failure inherent in that system.

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Norway isn't a socialist country.

 

If Venesuala wasn't so dependent on fossil fuel and wasn't so corrupt it wouldn't be in such trouble now.

How did its status as a socialist country contribute to its demise?

 

lol I guess the rape of the economy by the socialist leaders had nothing to do with the oppression of the people.

 

If you were ideologically capable of being objective on the issue, you'd know that Venezuela shows the inherent weakness in a planned economy. You have "really smart people" who believe they can run the economy better than self-motivated citizens who compete and seek out efficiency and profit, and those "really smart people" in Venezuela put all their eggs in one basket - oil, and now they are screwed. They killed off almost all of their private enterprise, so there is nothing left to fall back on.

Turns out those "really smart people" didn't think ahead very well. That's a great reason why socialist planned economies always end up in failure. Think about that the next time you profess your love of socialism.