The GOP Senators are the Cowards of the Country IMO!

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Why would Trump give anything unless compelled?
    Are you new?
     
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    Suppression if you compelled him and he refused. But you didn't. Live and learn
     
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    There's nothing to learn but that Trump is a coward who hid documents and suppressed witnesses and refused to let Don McCann testify. at to his coverups.
     
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    Are you still bitter because your incompetent House heroes don't know how to compel witnesses?
     
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    Let's face it, no Trumpster, especially here on PF, will ever stop repeating the lies this administration has whipped up. It is a futile effort. They view politics as a spectator sport, and we are the opposing team. Facts, logic, consistency, all those things are thrown out the window, just like Trump does. Welcome to the new Idiocracy!

    We just need to keep our nose to the grindstone.
     
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    The only people I know who claim to read minds are mental cases:roflol:
    Trump is branded and impeached for life and he is the most investigated president in history but the investigations aren't done and there is more to come out. Cowardly Trump proved his guilt by not letting McGann testify to his many coverups in front of congress.. Cowardly Trump suppressed witnesses and held on to documents because he knew they would be damaging. And you're swallowing the Trump cool aide. Heck I'm not angry I feel sorry for you gulping down the Trump Kool aid.and regurgitating it . you're a Trump pump
     
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    That's a lot of words just to say the House Dems ****ed up and failed to have their witnesses compelled
     
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    Duh! Trump tried to to tie up everything in court for ages. Are you dumb? Lets face it the coward suppressed docs and witnesses
     
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    You seem to be the one who doesnt understand a defendants rights
     
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    The distortion is all that Trump and supporters can offer And some of the Utah state leges are doing it as well. And many of their brothers and sisters in the legislature are telling them wisely in private to "calm down, take a breath, and think this out. Mitt had the right to make his choice, and we, almost all of his tribe, do understand his thinking. You will not want to recall or censure. You will want to be quiet. Also the citizens of Utah are proud of him."

    Herewegoagain has correctly said that we are now (my word: political) war to the metaphorical knife. The GOP does not have the demographics to win in the end. The Dems are rallying with indies and neverTrumpers, and in the end they will win.
     
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    Duh drinking the koolaide. Trump suppressed witnesses and docs and tried to tie up everything in court because he' was guilty. A lying piece of **** that should never have been president and you're supporting this trash bag. Keep drinking the Kool Aid. That's what Trump expects of you. When trump barks you jump!
     
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    Trump is supposed to comply with the House when it asks for documents and witnesses. That is the House's constitutional right in an impeachment session.. Trump the trashcan is defying the constitution. . Your ignorance is vast and deep. Your think you know what your doing but your just spreading fecal matter all over this forum'
     
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    Apparently a large majority of the GOP does want a King.
     
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    He has the right to every legal avenue available to any defendant.


    The house has sole power of impeachment, but it doesn't have unmitigated power to do anything it wants. It must operate within the laws of the land.
     
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    And Trump wishes he had the powers of Putin.
     
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    More ignorance. The impeachment clause is singular and separate. . That means the House has the power to ask for witnesses and documents from the president and he/she needs to cooperate...That is the law of the land. Your logic is foul and consists of total Trump talking points. If a president can completely withhold all witnesses and documents there would be no impeachment. Which is where your foul and bizarre logic leads us.. Total Trump talking points and nothing more.
     
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    In the case of Trump we know that he dillerbately held back Don McGann's testimony because of McGann's admission to Mueller that Trump wanted him involved in coverups. Cowardly Trump simply wanted to cover up as much of the damning evidence as he could so his attempts to block docs and witnesses were a sham. He also claimed that the 17 witnesses who testified in the House investigation shouldn't be allowed to do so. Once again Trump had no reason to dissuade witnesses from testifying except for purposes of coverups. We know for a fact that Trump simply wanted to hold back evidence that was damaging.to him. Trumps policy was wholesale denial of all documents once again this is a president who was terrified of damaging evidence and the truth. .
     
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    What does that have to do with his legal avenues of defense? Appeal to emotion is not how the legal system works. But it how those with poor debate skills operate on public forums.
     
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    Cite that law
     
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    The truth of the matter is that neither Trump nor the House have any rights in their role as state actors. All state actors are granted powers under the Constitution. The House has the power to impeach and Trump must comply with the House's power to impeach since he has no constitutionally granted power to override that power and is prohibited to do so per the 10th Amendment. Not to mention he is mandated by his Oath of Office to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution. The House impeaches and the Senate tries for acquittal or removal. In this case Trump obstructed the House and the Senate failed to hold a legitimate trial, both in violation of the Constitution.
     
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    What planet are you on. Trump wanted the coverup of McGann's testimony to congress because McGann already testified to Mueller about Trumps coverups. Once again you eat the Trump talking points and spit them out,. But you do this on planet Mars
     
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    The house has sole power, meaning exclusive.
    Nowhere in the constitution is the Congress granted the power to override the constitutionally guaranteed rights of defendants.
     
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    What the **** does his motive have to do with his rights to all legal avenues of defense under the law? Nothing.
     
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    Take a look at Bob0627’s post a few posts above to see how wrong are if you have the guts. Here's what he said and I'm quoting word for word.

    ".The truth of the matter is that neither Trump nor the House have any rights in their role as state actors. All state actors are granted powers under the Constitution. The House has the power to impeach and Trump must comply with the House's power to impeach since he has no constitutionally granted power to override that power and is prohibited to do so per the 10th Amendment. Not to mention he is mandated by his Oath of Office to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution. The House impeaches and the Senate tries for acquittal or removal. In this case Trump obstructed the House and the Senate failed to hold a legitimate trial, both in violation of the Constitution."

    Squid you havn't a clue just Trump talking points.
     
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    I already replied. He is wrong.
    The House has sole(exclusive) power of impeachment. They have no power to conduct impeachment outside of the rights afforded to any citizen.
     

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