The Hidden Tribes of America and the Need for Compromise

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Please select your Tribe and whether you are willing to Compromise or not willing to Compromise

  1. I am a Progressive Activist Willing to Compromise

    4.2%
  2. I am a Progressive Activist Not willing to Compromise

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. I am a Traditional Liberal willing to Compromise

    8.3%
  4. I am a Traditional Liberal Not willing to Compromise

    4.2%
  5. I am a Passive Liberal willing to Compromise

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. I am a Passive Liberal Not willing to Compromise

    4.2%
  7. I am Politically Disengaged willing to Compromise

    4.2%
  8. I am Politically Disengaged Not willing to Compromise

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. I am a Moderate willing to Compromise

    25.0%
  10. I am a Moderate Not willing to Compromise

    4.2%
  11. I am a Traditional Conservative willing to Compromise

    25.0%
  12. I am a Traditional Conservative Not willing to Compromise

    4.2%
  13. I am a Devoted Conservative willing to Compromise

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. I am a Devoted Conservative Not willing to Compromise

    4.2%
  15. I am None of the above

    12.5%
  1. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    Republican Wall Street financed Marx and the Bolsheviks.
     
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    Given the responses to the poll so far it is worth noting that 14% have abstained, 23% are unwilling to compromise and 64% are willing to compromise. (Note percentages are rounded up.)

    Perhaps the most SIGNIFICANT aspect of this preliminary result is that almost half of those who are willing to compromise self identified as Traditional Conservatives.

    That is excellent news because it means that we have fair minded PF members on both sides of the political aisle who are open to finding solutions that are best for America.
     
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    And what would you give up for that funding?
     
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    Nothing

    The wall is needed

    Its not a gift

    Or if you want to think of it as a gift what are you offering in return for welfare funding?
     
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    I'm often told that.
    The idea of erecting a wall puts me off. But I can't think of anything else you can do.
     
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    Time for a civil war then. Eh? Am I right Commrade?
     
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    The wall is not needed. Simply make it so that illegals cant get jobs here. they will stop coming.

    Fix the problem. Dont put a bandaid on it.
     
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    Since when is being against wasteful spending correlate to hate?
     
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    Hopefully not but its up to libs to decide

    The longer bitter clinger deplorables resist global socialism ruled by un whites the more impatient liberals become

    And if so they might turn to violence
     
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    Its not wasteful spending and you are fuelled by hate
     
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    The wall is needed along about 700-800 miles of the border
     
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    And you said absolutely nothing that addresses my post.


    Hold EMPLOYERS accountable for hiring illegals in a way that is incredibly painful for them, and they will stop doing so.

    If there is no market for jobs for illegals, they will stop coming here. Its pretty simple supply and demand.
     
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    You are focusing on the wrong thing. I am not the topic of the thread.
    Are you one of the 5 who voted for NO compromise? I was not.
     
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    It's why tRUMP and supporters are really serious about illegal immigrants.
    They don't want to address the root of the problem.
     
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    We are trying to but withot much cooperstion from congress

    We should build the wall and instsll electronic monitoring along the 1200 miles not covered by the wall

    Then make sure we have enough Border Patrol agensts and military there to pick up ever alien intruder

    Then repeal the central America refugee asslyum loophole

    Then outlaw santuary cities and deport every illegal alien we find

    At the same time impliment better tracking of visa overstays

    Then or also work on improving the e-verify system

    There is much to do that liberal swamp rats in washington are unwilling to do
     
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    Since trump won the election and liberals suddenly feared he moght stop the flow of illegal aliens
     
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    We can and shood hold employers and illegal alien employees acountable

    Employers who knowingly hire illegals should be punished

    While the illegal and their entire family should be deported immediately

    Bit if its as easy to solve the problem as you claim then libs should have done that while obama was president

    You didnt so now its our turn
     
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    Just calling it wasteful spending does not make it so

    Besides if big government libs cared about wasteful spending the federal budget would be around half the size it is now
     
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    But...your comments are centered around a basic fallacy. If we toss those who disagree with us into a single large group, we're expressing the assumption that all those who have different ideas think and behave uniformly. As one of those "liberals" you mention, I can tell you that no, that's not how I think.
     
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    With all of the correct answers to the questions already "in hand" I don't think anyone believes that. It is common knowledge that the south-west states are saturated with illegal Mexican workers and always has been. Law has nothing to do with it as long as farmers can hire unskilled labour for low wages.
     
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    I want you to uphold your own sanctimonious standard ... providing "credible sources". :;):
     
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    You know the R's have had all 3 branches for 2 yrs? And you know, the fed budget increased under them.
    So tRUMP and congress are big gov't libs. Yet, you vote for them.
     
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    Two of three

    Roberts is a scab

    But I am only slightly less critical of the repubs in congress as I am the dems
     
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    Only some of that is really needed though. I choose NOT to spend the estimated 40 billion the wall will cost over time.

    And whats this loophole you speak of? A quick search didnt really turn anything up. My guess is it goes something like this. "Can people from central america apply for asylum? Yes? Thats a loophole......."


    The ONLY things that need be done.

    improve electronic monitoring. - We agree there.
    Better tracking of visa overstays. Agreed.
    improve E-Verify, AND PUNISH COMPANIES WHO EMPLOY ILLEGALS. - Agreed.

    If we do these three things, it would be more than adequate.
     
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    Yet you're for big gov't spending on a mostly useless wall.
    When enforcing laws already in place about employers hiring illegals would be the best result to illegal immigration.
    So how you are for reduced spending?
     

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