The Holocaust revised!!!!

Just think about it. People believe in a magic Jewish zombie who will save their souls. They think that they will live with it forever in a 1,500 mile sided golden bejeweled cube call New Jerusalem. Why wouldn't they believe the fairy tale about the "holocaust"?

 

if they were burning 1200 bodies a day the locals would definitely know what was going on

 

I am not going to argue with all the holocaust denires here since this is of no use - but i do have something that i want you to do for me - in 1942 some members of my family vanished while in a fun trip to austria. Can you please find them for me? and while you do that, please find tha other millions of jews that went camping during that time.
Thanks.

 

Probably abducted by the same aliens that took 66m Christians in Russia. You sniff around Russia see if you can find them while we look, cheers.

 

which has nothing to do with the jewish holocaust that you deny.

 

Whos denying it? Lots of Jews died of course - the Bolshevik movement was full of them. And of course it was those Bolsheviks who created the Christian coloss-a-caust.

 

which has nothing to do with the jewish holocaust that you deny.

 

They were concerned about Jews in Germany and from reading before there was a fair amount of conflict among the Jewish community certainly in the US - some correctly thinking this would make the situation worse for Jews in Germany - whom I seem to remember were against this.

Then, you need to remember that this is not all the countries, just some of the Jews. It wouldn't have much of an impact. Think of BDS and how long it is taking to get results.

 

The lists are of people in Transit, they did 'come out' or they stayed to work. The 'Death Camps' got there name because peopleliving on starvation rations, those ho did not receive parcels from home, were waorked to death.

The sky as not filled with ash, that fancy comes from a now discredited eyewitness account.. The number of crematoria corresponded with the populous before and after the outbreak in '42 the fact that Typhus was a constant fear. For instance Auschwitz had a population of over 25 thousand peoples in the camp, outter camp of immigrant workers and the villages and the mines,
There was no stench of burning flesh though in some camps there was stench which went with the workings going on.


http://www.air-photo.com/english/

 

You asked; and here's a list of those imprisoned for Holocaust denial: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial#Prosecutions_and_convictions
Try doing some research before you get hysterical next time.

 

Gruesome! But once a person is dead, he is dead and feels nothing anymore. That is a consolation.

Thank you for your info.
I have heard that the Russians also threw the dead Germans in Siberian labor camps each morning by the thousands into open pits. They died of starvation and sickness.

Wars should be unilaterally strictly forbidden or else...!

 

Exactly. Where did they vanish into, thin air? They existed, because we have records of where and when they were born. Then they ceased to exist. Millions of them. Where did they go?
These are very simple questions the deniers are at a loss to answer.

 

So who was feeding Paris before the liberation

 

The Allies did consider bombing a number of camps in range. The decision was made to concentrate on using the resources to end the war faster because planners believed the camps would be rebuilt and be operational again in a very short period of time

 

No they/we are not. No body is denying the gas chambers just for the fun of it. I believed that horror for most of my life. My now absolute and certain belief that there was no systematic organised genocide of anyone by the Germans in WII has been an extremely painful and difficult journey,

This is Paul Rassiniers harrowing story of the truth of Camp life. He was no friend of the Reich, as the first 'denier;. Is the truth not atrocious enough ?' was all he was saying. What I find the saddest consequence is that most who suffered are never recognized. for eg most of the piled up bodies from Belsen, victims of typhoid, where not Jewish. The Jewish compound, mainly from the Diamond Trade, escaped almost unscathed. So who were those who manly died after the British took over for we too couldn't cope ?

http://www.vho.org/aaargh/engl/RassArch/PRdebunk/PRdebunkIntro.html


Unraveling this web of lies is not easy, it takes time as always with these tangled webs. For that is all it is, a Victors Propaganda. Until we do though we have no chance of looking honestly at what happened and so how we can manage to stop this nonsense of killing each other in a time where we have enough knowledge to all live in Peace.

 

Belief dont cut it - And dont you have some homework to do. I noticed you ignored my answer to the last question you asked me

 

I have forgotten what it was ? Where did all the people go ? After the Chaos of War and in the chaos of the aftermath ?Rassinier covers that after his story. first 6 chapters. in his book. As do many others.

Wannsse ? We only have an unrealiable translation but you are talking about 'the Final Solution' I believe.
The 'Final Solution' was resettlement. Jewish people had been exiled, those who had not managed to escape where being moved East where some had been resettled before War broke out, later taken by Russia, some were in transit to the East. Some specialists were kept in Belsen for eg diamonds ..............

There is plenty written on it ..................... before War broke out World leaders had been discussing a home land for the Jewish peoples, asked for by Zionists, not the Bund. The Zionists wanted Israel the rest of the World did not think it a good idea but as Jews were being moved East, Zionists yet again called genocide of the magic six million of the Torah prediction.
Politics was played and Israel was given against everyone else's better judgement,


We all lost, we all always do in War. There are no winners.

I will change that belief to knowledge for that is what it is after years and years of research and double treble research.

 

Typical wishy washy non response

But I only have one word for you

Treblinka

 

I'll ask again; what happened to the millions who just 'disappeared', never to be seen again? And I'm sorry, you can't blame it all on typhus.
And we do have records of where Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Communists and dissenters lived prior to their disappearance.
We also have records-16 miles of meticulously documented Nazi files-of what happened to them:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-11-19-holocaust-papers_x.htm

 

I have read on this subject long enough, and from a wide enough range of sources, to say without fear of contradiction that six million Jews were not singled out for a dedicated programme of extermination, and that to suggest this is so, and that this was carried out by way of gas chambers, is simply a falsity.

It is impossible to have an honest debate on this, since they have made doing so a crime in a lot of European nations, which in turns means that few authors or historians are going to dare risk being locked up for trying.

If you have absolute truth, then you do not need to use the threat of prison to guard that truth, it is as simple as that.

As I've said, it feels like being in the Middle Ages, and being a witch!

It's terrible that all of WW2 has been reduced to a mere footnote for this.

It is awful that there are many more examples of mass genocide and killings, that barely merit a mention, let alone the relentless attention.

And it is almost a sick joke that each year, there are all these crocodile tears, when in fact the Jews have had their own huge + open air concentration camp in the Near East, for 66yrs.

 

How many Hollywood movies have been made about the 66 million Christians who were murdered by Jewish Bolcheviks? I guess they don't count.

 

I also at one time believed - everything I was told from childhood , until I got this darn PC - of course I dont believe everything on the Net but WWW makes it possible to access info easier than spending weeks in a stuffy public library.
One is no longer restricted to believe earlier post WW2 propaganda and able weigh against it loads of new info previously seen as politically incorrect .

I've found that Jewish "historians/chroniclers " have an historical record towards gross exaggerations , for example :

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Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
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The only reason I once believed as you is coz , at that time , one had no alternative accounts of what + how eveents took place.

btw - at the time of the Nuremberg trials - WW2 Victors was still thirsty for revenge and its likely -imo - that the criminals crimes were also exaggerated.
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See the following -

Stalin's Jews

We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish
Here's a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90 years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.


Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.



We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.



Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists, "opposition members" who were defined completely randomly, and countless members of the Communist party itself.



In his new, highly praised book "The War of the World, "Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University's Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.



Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.



All these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union's archives have not yet been fully opened


to the public. But who knows about this? Within Russia itself, very few people have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD's and KGB's service. The Russian public discourse today completely ignores the question of "How could it have happened to us?" As opposed to Eastern European nations, the Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.



And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the "bloodthirsty dwarf."



Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book "Stalin: Court of the Red Star", Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.



Stalin's close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the "first Stalinist" and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao's terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.



Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.



In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a "carnival of mass murder," "fantasy of purges", and "essianism of evil." Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.


The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and "Soviet people." Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and "play dumb": What do we have to do with them? But let's not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things. "

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

 

Typical numbskull response.

 

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