Makedde said, We also do not believe that you can sell your own body parts. To do so is illegal did you know that? Do you think it should be legal? How about a woman who wants to abort fetuses and sell their body parts? Did you know that I am not the only person in the country who wants to deny someone the right to do this? GUESS WHAT? ITS ALREADY ILLEGAL. So we are doing nothing but upholding what THE LAW SAYS. Why don't you know these things? LOL I believe there is only one state where you can die if you choose and then you need medical permission. That state is Oregon. LMAO So you deny what science and medicine has to say about this? LOL You certainly do not stand on facts only your own view point the way you want to believe it. So you don't give a crap what science has to say .well honey that is no surprise. I never said the fetus can feel pain at eight weeks. I do not believe in abortion so the pain issue does not matter to me because it simply should not be done. And you don't care about the pain issue either because you believe in abortion throughout all nine months .and surely you know by then the unborn can feel pain. So for you whatever way the abortionists kill it is simply ok. Right? You make me want to puke ya know that. Your vile position and the way you put it wow. Abortion humane. Are you kidding me? What kind of a person are you really for gosh sakes. Unbelievable. Most abortions are done on WOMEN WHO ARE HEALTHY AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG THE THE BABY. What don't you get. Its like talking to a wall here. No worse. Your (*)(*)(*)(*) straight we are. What if the child lives .what might happen? Your doom and gloom and you say you want freedom to choose .then what about the unborns rights? YOU PAINT A BULLS EYE ON EVERY UNBORNS FOREHEAD IN THE WOMB. To you it does not matter that the child might be successful and have a good life. The unborn is collateral damage to you. Yes. Everyone has a right to be born. If we killed everyone that screwed up at some point of their life no one would be here. Would you be here? Or are you that perfect little fetus that escaped the knife that made a success of herself? LMAO How wonderful that you got a chance at life. And here you sit debating about the rights people have to kill ..you can thank your mother that she did not kill you. No honey we have science on our side. Science says abortion is the taking of a living human life. And that you can't deny no matter how hard you try. I am not forcing anything on anyone. Any women in America can hire at hit on her child. I have the right to change the law however. Our nation dictates to us by the laws that are on the books what we can do and what we can't. Women have control of their own lives. I want abortion illegal. The woman can choose to have sex or not have sex take the risk or don't take the risk. We want to save babies. You want to kill them like a ritual of honor. Your bizarre absolutely bizarre. You are like talking to a brick a cold heavy brick. If your child starves to death its on YOU NOT ME. Its your responsibility to feed and take care of your child. I also work at a Crisis Pregnancy Center look it up I am sure you have no idea what that is .LOL You should take care of your own mistakes. But there are people all over the country that totes the load for people like you who blame and bash and throw mud. This must devastate you oh my gosh. Are you working to make abortion legal throughout all nine months? Because to deny a woman an abortion then is to deny her the RIGHT TO HER BODY. We certainly would not want to enslave her would we? GET THIS ..I AM AGAINST ALL ABORTION. GOT IT? Not an idiot if you are driving safely and defensively and have your seat belt on. You still know the risks..and take them. An idiot is one who breaks laws while driving. The woman knows that through sex she can get pregnant. So she takes a chance even more if she does not use birth control. Who said you should be punished? The person who caused it should be punished and take responsibility. The woman is the one who connected to the sex act that led her to become pregnant. It is her fault her body, remember? And about the donation of blood .? In that we are taking about two grown people who can make choices for themselves. Of course you should not force anyone to do that. But can a unborn say ..yes mommy kill me .or please mommy don't? I am sick of moochers and whiners. You are just that aren't you? You think its ok to make a mistake and have others pay for your mistake .right? No. I am 56 years old and helping to raise my grandchildren. But I support adoption and there are many loving couples who would love that opportunity. Our adoption laws should make it easier to adopt. Could you provide that statistic the 99% one. LOL You know I do my part to help people. What do you do? Do you just support killing? Or do you actually get up off the sofa or off the computer and do something? Share with us your humanitarian efforts for mankind. LMAO You call it whatever you want my dear .abortion kills an already started human being. You fight for killing and you enjoy the blood on your hands. You love it... Take a long walk off a short pier .please. NEVER HAVE I EVER AND I HAVE BEEN PRAYING AT ABORTION CLINICS FOR OVER TEN YEARS .SEEN SOMEONE THROW SOMETHING. NEVER EVER EVER. We follow the law by staying back off the properties. I have never been arrested because I abide by the laws stop listening to all the pro-abort propaganda. And so sad that you don't value the life of the unborn at all.
The abortion rate might likely decrease if there were no abortion laws. Well, no interference by the government and a progressive attitude towards sex education and contraception would help. If you compare similar wealthy countries like Canada and the US, there were 96,000 abortions in Canada in 2004-05 compared with 1.2 million in the US. The US has 9x the population of Canada. That means that there are 20-30% more abortions in the US per capita than in Canada. No political party wants to legislate in the area of abortion and all provinces fund the procedure. Rather, than harass people at clinics and getting your lawmakers to restrict access to abortion services, because that point is too late. A woman who wants to abort her foetus will do it regardless of attempts by others to interfere. If you are sincere about wanting to help, work at educating women and girls to make smarter choices. Encourage your politicians to provide tools to prevent pregnancy so a decision to terminate is not necessary. Give up the idea that people are not going to have sex. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/article686691.ece
Bush did pick judges that would deny women that choice ... correct? the judges Bush picked will effect us for a long long time
The worse example of pro lifer hypocrisy is the fact that they want to do away with legal abortion but enthusiastically applaud the starvation of poor children by eliminating needed social programs and health care reform: http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/09/17/us-usa-healthcare-deaths-idUSTRE58G6W520090917 http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169216.php
legojenn said, Progressive what do you mean? Our kids get adequate sex education. It would decrease if it were illegal. And? The thing you forget ..our Constitution says that we can form to protest it is every Americans right to do so. To organize and show opposition. I do not believe that the public should FUND ABORTION. I do not want to pay for your abortion or your child's abortion .sisters abortion. You get pregnant you pay for it. You have no way of knowing how many babies would be saved if abortion were illegal once again. Even Planned Parenthood stated that before Roe most abortions were done in doctors offices. And few women did home abortions. That is a myth. More women would take precautions and more might not even risk sex because of the consequences. Today people use abortion as birth control. I do educate. I work with Right to Life, work at my neighborhood Crisis Pregnancy Center and also work with people through Silent No More. I am more than sincere I have dedicated my life sharing my experiences to women .working at conventions, fairs, expos, schools and universities. The tools are there what has to happen is at HOME. Parents need to educate and today most don't they rely on schools. I have been in the schools and kids get adequate information and services at our public schools. There is no excuse. I think we are living in a porn generation .kids know more about sex than ever before. The internet print media .radio .television .movies .all help to do this. Many people say .the government has no right to come into our bedrooms. I say the government has no right to dictate what our kids should know about sex at school. They need to teach the basics .and sex never was an education basic of education. No excuses our kids know and are street smart about sex. Its just so permissive today that kids have sex earlier and more frequently that mistakes will happen. They don't happen because kids don't know how to protect themselves they happen because they are careless and think that it will never happen to them.
Your vile .simply vile ..more than vile. To say that i want children to starve? What the hell do you do to help? Besides sitting here and spewing hatred towards the ONLY PEOPLE WHO DO VALUE CHILDREN. IT CERTAINLY IS NOT YOU OR YOUR SIDE. How much money do you donate a year towards helping? You socialists do you give most your money away? Or do you just point fingers that the very people who do value life.
Bravo .right on. But these socialists think they should mooch everything off the government. They should be owed ..birth control housing .car allowance ..health care. OBAMA MONEY OBAMA MONEY
What does that have to do with the sited sources I gave? Every statement is documented .Alcorn just gathered up evidence and sited them altogether. Just because it is from his site and actually this is from a book he wrote .Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Questions .does not mean its false.
Protest and free association is a right exercised by all of us in the developed world. It's nothing unique to one country. Protesters also have the right to be wrong and foolish, which I think the pro-forced-pregnancy people have got down to an art. Continue to protest. It will only discredit your movement. Based on what I see at these protests, it seems to be predominately a social event of old men and post-menopausal women....people with no investment in the matter. I'm sure you meant that as a joke. Having to make a difficult choice, dealing with doctors poking around, protesters such as yourself harassing patients and dealing with aftercare is so much more practical than popping a pill 3 weeks out of 4. Spreading misinformation and propaganda is not educating.
He made a list of the evidence he found. Don't you read? The information came from scientific sources for Gosh sakes. Look up for yourself ..if you know how to do that. Just because he is a minister does not mean that he can't site sources and that those sources are all wrong because they show up on his website.
legojenn said, No it does not…but then what would you know with your obvious pro-death worldview. This is a power struggle good and evil…and your position is evil…as it calls for the murder of innocent human beings. I do not believe for one minute that you have ever set foot near a protest. You have no clue whatsoever… Is there something wrong with older people? Are you racist and prejudiced against certain groups of people? Wow…..bigoted eh? What grade are you in…middle school? I don't harass anyone how dare you say that. I do not call praying at PP clinics harassing behavior. People like you don't response well to education..which is probably why you never finished school. I am not spreading anything false.
So what kind of charities do you support to help starving and less fortunate children? I support four charities, and those charities all help children. But apparently I don't care about kids, given that I am pro choice and all...
Well its none of your business but if you want to know I support a child and have for over eight years. Her name is Bantu Adabe and she is from Ethiopia. You can support a child to if you want just contact World Vision. My sister supported a little one from Haiti but after the earthquake they contacted her and said that they were giving her another child. We can only imagine that she was lost. I also tithe and support our missionaries which are all located in the Middle East. They take care of the poor and minister to their needs. As I said I work at a Crisis Pregnancy Center and do work through there. What do you do since you care so much for children.
He posted information taken off of medical journals and the Physicians Desk reference book. LOL How are those biased? A lot of people do research who are not doctors.
I was going to support World Vision until they sacked workers for not being Christians. Seems atheists are not allowed to help out a charity they support. That's only one child. My monthy donations, to four different charities, helps thousands of children. Thousands. Yours assists only one. Doesn't this mean that I, as someone who is pro choice, cares for children more as my contribution goes further?
WEll you are the type of person who would find fault with everything. And you know what ..I am not going to get into a pissing match with you on what either of us does monetarily. It might be a big deal to you to walk around and brag I do not. I know what I do God does and I could care less what you or anyone else thinks. So why don't you start a thread about yourself and how wonderful you are and how your better than anyone else. It might make you feel good .better than you obviously do underneath. The fact it you are pro-choice which is pro-abortion so while you might value some life you don't value all of it. You do not acknowledge the human life in the womb .and that in my opinion DEFINES YOU.
The Physician Desk Reference is used by all doctors around the globe. What is in it I would think would be the latest truths about all sorts of medicines. Your in denial and it would not matter even if a doctor told you what I am saying is true .you would not believe it. Your pro-abortion pro-killing and as I told whatshername .it defines you.
Neither does the PDR confirm Alcorn's following statement... Yes, I am pro-abortion rights, and I don't have to lie to justify my position.
Childrens Cancer Research, Heart Research (which also assists children), Childrens Cancer Fund, and SIDS and Kids, which helps the parents of children who were stillborn, miscarried, or died of SIDS. But how shocking. A pro choicer, making monthly donations to assist grieving parents of stillborn babies. According to lifers, we don't care about babies in the womb. Clearly this one does.
Folks who consider "reproductive freedom" on par with killing babies are truly uninformed and ignorant of reality and science.
