The ineffectiveness of Ron Paul

I can assure that I have done much more in the world of politics and the freedom fight than simply write my congressman. I've sacrificed a great deal in the freedom fight, and given that the totalitarian agenda of the Establishment is now coming into bloom, I fully expect that at some point in the coming years my door will be kicked in, and wist will be no more.

That's how this game ends for those of us who have actually fought. If I'm lucky?? I'll die of natural causes b/4 that day comes, but I'm not optimistic... the rise of the police state is now kicking into another gear.

We're now moving into the final phases of the revolution. We have no rule of law to protect us from government (funny how the Republican leadership never lifts a finger to restore Constitutional government - funny, huh??); the final touches are being put on destroying our currency; America has been maneuvered into accepting our future role of World Cop for the U.N.; over half the people in the country are dependent upon government; on and on...

The debt is intentional, just as the breakdown of the rule of law has been intentional. Has nothing to do with which political party is at the helm. Your thinking on these matters has been shaped for you by the very people who are enslaving you - there's no way to reach you. You're instincts seem to put you on the opposite side of the street from the obvious nuts - democrats/liberals - but you carry water for the Establishment just as they do.

I know full well you don't know what's going on, decent instincts aside; and I know full well you have no intention of cracking some books and getting it figured out. For me?? I'm just killing time until the collapse hits. I no longer work in politics or the freedom fight, it is futile. The ignorance is too widespread, and the Establishment has complete control. Game, set, and match.

In the end, Americans deserve to suffer for their ignorance - for all of the grief I have endured in fighting for freedom, and it has been considerable, I will take some measure of amusement from watching my ignorant neighbors suffer the loss of their freedom. As I said, they deserve it.

 

Maybe you should be a loyal serf and call Aunt Janet at the Ministry of Love. "If you see something, say something.

 

LMAO

So what do you think is going to happen? People are just going to start disappearing in the middle of the night along with their families?

I've yet to see American citizens appearing in internment camps and last I checked there weren't many white faces behind the fence at gitmo.

American citizens don't just "disappear" unless they are the victim of a crime.

 

I suggest you look up the definition of tyranny...

 

Found this:

 

Why do you think that possibility is so completely laughable and impossible? We've already seen this very thing happen to non-Americans. We saw Americans subjected to summary assassination by drones. With Operation Northwoods, we saw the idea floated by the Joint Chiefs of Staff that Americans would be targeted for false flag terrorist attacks. These are not "conspiracy theories," but historical facts that are not in dispute by historians.

Now please explain to me why you believe that American government is constitutionally incapable of disappearing American citizens in the middle of night? Because you just don't want to think about it? Because Obama's a really good guy?

Over 100,000 thousand Americans were interred in internment camps in WWII. Of course, they weren't white, which I guess you think matters a whole lot

Even more recently, they explicitly passed a law stating they could do just that. What more do you want? An engraved announcement signed by Obama sent to your house saying he can send you to GITMO now?

 

How the hell did they get Ron Paul into Gitmo?

It must be a conspiracy, perhaps the Ron Paul we been seeing in the debates is a Manchurian Clone?

It would explain how this particular Ron Paul knows nothing about his previous links to Racism, Libertarian "Militia" terrorist groups, or other unseemly allies that he pandered too on a regular basis and egged on at a time when a Federal Building just happened to explode.

 

Yet another person who signed up to debating forum but doesn't want to debate. Have fun voting for yet another Nurse Ratched.

 

You provide no debate except for insults and slander....keep trolling bro...

 

I still seek the Paul-o-phobe who's willing to put more energy telling me why his preferred candidate is worth voting for than why Ron Paul isn't. Let's hear the master list of Rick Santorum's virtues.

 

Psssttt... That was almost 70 years ago, and there were extenuating circumstances - namely, World War 2.

Just sayin'.

 

Because virtually everything that comes out of Ron Paul's mouth except "Cut Government" scares the living crap out me.

Also his links to Racism, libertarian "militia" terrorists and other unseemly allies he seems to know nothing about despite egging them on for years on end.

I wonder if Tim McVeigh said "This is for you Ron" as he pushed the button.

 

Fear is a weak emotion. Aren't you prepared to travel down roads you've never traveled. Let's push the envelope.

 

Why do people keep bringing up things they think he has ties to when there has been virtually no proof or any credible evidence of...

 

Lies and bull(*)(*)(*)(*) propaganda. Our entire political system is built upon it.

 

Since that's almost the only thing that does come out of his mouth, I don't know what your worried about. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for that list of Rick Santorum's virtues.

I'm also waiting for a substantive response to my previous post about GITMO, the nonexistence of civil liberties in post-9/11, and why it is inherently impossible for the American state to be tyrannical. I would say it already is tyrannical. It essentially assumes absolute power do to whatever it wants all over the world including America, i.e. "the battlefield of the War on Terror." What's your definition of tyranny?

You mean like your racist comment that we don't have to worry about Gitmo because there are no white faces behind it?

The US government is an unseemly ally, but that hasn't stopped you from siding with it.

McVeigh, like yourself, was a pro-aggressionist. You would sympathize with him if he was pushing the button on behalf of your preferred gang of child-slaughterers. In fact, McVeigh the military gunner was doing just that before he decided to go freelance. I guess the US government just hates competition in the child-slaughterer industry.

 

They were still American Citizens. It has happened in the past and it can happen again.

 

So if it happens a sufficiently long time ago and there are "extenuating circumstances" that means it can't happen here? What if there are "extenuating circumstances" again, like a worldwide, perpetual "war" on an undefined enemy for undefined reasons?

 

Psssttt... That was almost 70 years ago, and there were extenuating circumstances - namely, World War 2.

Just sayin'.



I suppose you think the Pope is going to call for more Crusades, too, huhh?

 

Why not? Surely one of the three big government neo-cons suits your tastes.

Of course, that's becuase the older generations have been more successfully brainwashed by Collectivists.

I was never third party.

Your "viable" political party is a sinking ship. None of those three clowns can beat Obama. But, like a true Collectivist, you place importance of the party over importance of freedom.

I don't choose to subject myself to the black and white nonsense of political parties.

When did I say that I agreed with mainstream Republicans? When did I say I wanted to be a Republican?
All I was doing was pointing out that you like big government, that's all.

This I am surprised at. You sound like a Democrat to me. But then again, there really isn't very much of a difference to begin with.

You can call me a "libertarian" if you want, but I think that term is completely inaccurate as a method of describing me.

I see. Loving freedom is "weird". At least you admitted it.

You act like you know me.

I'm not trying to do any such thing. I'm just pointing out that you're a big government liberal.

I've been saying that for years. The big government Republicans successfully hijacked the Tea Party movement for political gain.

Considering the Republican Party used to be the party of the paleo-conservatives, I would submit that if anything, neo-conservatives are the ones who have hijacked the party.
Nobody is "taking over" from mainstream Republicans. You're just making stuff up.

 

OH really. So Obama legalized drugs?
Young people are all drug fiends? That's the only reason they want to vote for Ron Paul?
All young voters support OWS?

It's statements like these that go to show just how detached from reality you really are.

 

Hahaha - brilliant!

No wait, it's OBVIOUS that you're putting words in people's mouths, and trying to act like they said something that wasn't said.

What's another word for that? LYING.

 

Explain how Ron Paul's ideas are "indoctrination". Explain how young people are "Foolish".

That's a classic example of an ad hominem. Attack the messenger, not his points. As a young person, I'll be glad to debate you on any topic of your choice and embarass you.

It's no surprise that you're incapable of thinking outside of the box from what your family conditioned you to believe.

On the contrary. Lots of people want Ron Paul.

Nobody wants there to be.

What does Goldwater have to do with Ron Paul?

For now. But in a few decades, neo-conservatism will be gone. It's finished.

Unfortunately for you it's not 1980 anymore. It's 2012. Obviously Ron Paul style "conservatism" is not dead and buried.

No, it's becuase the media, powerful corporations and bureauracts will do everything in their power to prevent their power from being usurped by these ideas of freedom.

And look where that's gotten us. Young Americans are fed up with your fake conservatism. It's a dying ideology. People don't want the government controlling every aspect of their lives like the neo-cons do.

 

Where did I put words in his mouth?

 

Geez...

Where did he - as you claimed - say that "Obama legalized drugs"?



You people are AMAZING.