The ineffectiveness of Ron Paul

I don't know its out there actually. He obviously doesn't own his own plane... so are you saying he flies on the taxpayers dollar? Im not COMPLETELY opposed to that. it IS part of the job after all, but I would still prefer to see some numbers. If you want to make a claim that people dont commonly recognize as truth then you should be willing to back it up.

 

Oh good lord, you people are nuts. Do you ONLY read what Ron Paul TELLS you to read? Do you ONLY think what Ron Paul TELLS you to think?

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_90/Records-Show-Ron-Paul-Trips-Paid-Twice-212118-1.html?pos=hftxt


There. That's one of the links. Now be a good boy, head over to RonPaul.com, and find out how this is being explained away.

 

You made the claim...now provide your proof of actual double reimbursement claims made...

 

Open your eyes! Your boy Ron can't even win one single primary! And you're still claiming that he'd win the General Election?

 

Funny how it doesn't accuse him, but actually provides several reasons for why it might have legitimately happend "on a handful of flights"

 

How can you type when you have fingers in both ears, your eyes closed, and are screaming, "LALALALALALALALALALALALALA!"

 

Of course, there HAS to be some way of explaining it away. Just as I said there would be!

 

Listen if voting for Ron Paul makes me crazy get me a tin foil hat.
Get me a tin foil hat if you think the United States should continue a hostile irrational foreign policy.
If you think we should blame China for economic situations in both country's that our government created.

Seriously, we borrowed money from China, distributed it through bail outs and stimulus to be spent significantly on Chinese products and then get mad at them, and bring up sanctions because their economy gets better while ours gets worse.

We went to war in Iraq because they... didn't have Nukes?

Iran is a... Republic like the United States? Jews live there in Peace?

If Iran had nukes would they attack Israel or the United States?
Both the Us and Israel have stalk piled Nukes.
The US has an excellent missile defense system?
North Korea threatened the US with Nukes and our Govt. told them we could stop a nuclear attack?

In the past the foreign policies we still use today have forcefully installed authoritarian dictators who murdered countless innocent men, women and children in country's such as Iran and Chile?

The senate bailed out their Barber shop in Washington? A company with a bunch of wealthy and influential customers went under?

The stimulus package and over extended unemployment and other entitlements which are not regulated are helping our economy? Obama hired a woman to make an enlarged replica of his dog out of trash bags?

Obama supports the Patriot act( which doesn't protect you), taking away your right to raise complaints against the government if they detain you indefinitely for reasons at their discretion?

Obama also supports Airport full body x ray machines and TSA abuse of all fliers including seniors and children.

So do all the other GOP candidates?

If you want America secure, with a smaller immigration problem our troops should be on our borders, our resources should be stalked not expended, we should be working on having and maintaining the best tech and training, that includes being able to fund it.

Yep get me a tin foil hat because i think we can do better for ourselves.

I don't agree with Ron Paul on everything but i think he is certainly the man for the job in our current situation.

 

I'm not dismissing your claim. I am just saying this ONE story doesn't seem to have any proof of anything. You can't possibly use this when it has no real information. In fact, they didn't even know for sure that it happened! It just seems a little 'desperate'

 

So you are saying you don't have actual proof?

Funny how none of the major news media has never reported on this...

 

Hahaha - you people are priceless!

It's like I'm talking to a Jehovah Witness, who is also a Kirby Vacuum Cleaner salesman, Amway salesman, and Primerica Agent all wrapped up in one!

I'll give you this: You are well versed in your cult mantra, and quite adept and refusing to believe evidence that literally slaps you in the face.

 

OBAMA MUST BE IMPEACHED AND CHARGED WITH HIGH TREASON, MURDER, FRAUD, AND OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has proven that both Obama's birth certificate and selective service card are forgeries. Look for Obama to have Arpaio assassinated. THEN WILL YOU BELIEVE AMERICA'S IN SERIOUS TROUBLE?

Now the judeo-communists who rammed through Obama's presidency are sure to nuke an American city. They've got to get this show on the road. If we Patriots keep going, we'll expose the horrendous extent to which the "jews" have rigged and controlled all our presidential puppets for at least a couple of generations. They have to invoke the Detainee Security Act to put us all away. FAST.

SIGN THE PETITION AND DONATE MONEY TO GET THAT JOKE OBAMA OUT OF OFFICE.

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DEAN BERRY MINISTRIES: "When a government outlaws terrorism, they're planning something for which terrorism is the only recourse."

 

Opinion.

Specify what exactly is "Kooky" or "Stupid"... But I'm quite certain you'll tell me to look up the reasons in your previous posts but, we've been there before. Do you mind going point by point as to what his Platform is and what exactly you disagree with. If you're not going to supply an answer don't even reply.

You mean the ones who get called an assortment of names on a typical basis and are outraged when they're insulted? Wow... Humans being human.

We respect him... We don't treat him like a God. I think what you're trying to say is that he has a following that you dislike so it's better to insult them and make them appear insane rather than actually have a meaningful discussion. You call yourself an "Ex-Ron Paul supporter" but, you yourself weren't even able at times to supply his actual positions on some matters. It's clearly a way to show there is some exodus from Ron Paul's camp and you're somehow enlightened while all of his supporters are "Cultists".

Using another term to apply to us as if we're some Religious Cult... Funny. But to examine the rest of the quote... We don't follow the rest of what the Political Game wants us to so we're doing "Scorched Earth" practices in your mind when we're actually forcing changes. Compromising positions that inherently are the core of the Political Belief is selling out and doesn't create the changes that are needed.

"Shut up and sit down"... You must enjoy that feeling of insulting people and putting yourself above others.

 

Did I miss the notice at the top of this forum that says, JEWS ONLY. These comments couldn't be more stacked.

Of course, k-kes hate Dr. (Are you a doctor?) Ron Paul - he's gonna get rid of your two biggest cash cows, the Criminal Reserve and the IRS.

WHAT MAN WHO'S ACTUALLY A MAN WOULD OBJECT TO NOT PAYING INCOME TAXES?

REAL CHRISTIANS and REAL AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES (not neocons, they are in no way related to Conservatives) want the income tax replaced by a national sales tax. Which can't find its way into the "jews" pockets.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I'll be around to remind all you kids of this, after Ron Paul finally drops out of the race.

 

You're not here to debate. You're a god (*)(*)(*)(*) troll. Ignored.

 

Since Paul was a member in good standing for 30 of those 50 years of Congressional clusterfuk, how is it he gets a pass? Something his legislation never did.

Paul never got one piece of good legislation passed, and never got one piece of what he considered bad legislation blocked.

I will be very pleased when this election is over and Paul fades into his richly deserved obscurity.

12 terms of NOTHING while whining about term limits. Who could vote for such a paradox and failure.

 

Seriously?? You are coming back with that again?? Ok...last time...

CONGRESSIONAL RESULTS ARE NOT DECIDED UPON BY ONE PERSON!

I don't know why you have such a hard time understanding that...good lord.

 

mmk. Pointless insult and rhetoric noted. When you provide me with face-slapping evidence I will be happy to read it.

 

really analyzed legislative bills from Congress in detail? They are mostly discriminatory transfers of cash from donees (i.e. taxpayers) to selected donors (i.e. corporations or selected individuals) or civil liberties-limiting mandates. A sum total of ZERO bill propositions is my expectation for a Congressman/woman. Of course, I suppose welfare recipients and ethanol manufacturers view effectiveness by HOW MUCH government cheese is obtained or HOW MANY pieces of legislation were generated. The appropriate role of Congress is to balance the power of the president and Senate and to enforce commerce violations.

 

Exactly. Fingers in ears, eyes closed, and screaming, "Lalalalalalala!"

I find it amazing - and amusing - that EVERY SINGLE RON PAUL ZEALOT on this forum completely and totally IGNORES EVERYTHING regarding why the overwhelming majority of Americans are NOT going to vote for the guy. I have given you literally DOZENS of reasons why, and you do nothing but get POd, and act like a big frikkin' baby.

Let me remind you of some of Ron Paul's problems:

1. He comes off as a nutty old kook.
2. His abortion "stance" is cowardly, two-faced, and dishonest.
3. His solution to our national drug problem is silly, and a cowardly and unworkable cop-out.
4. His isolationist foreign policy is laughable, at best. It will never happen, and if it did it would cripple the world economy.
5. His zealous followers are as nutty as he is, and actually damage his reputation as well as his electability.


Until you can grow up, you might as well keep ignoring the people who are telling you the TRUTH.

 

COP OUT ALERT! COP OUT ALERT!


Facts the facts. Ron Paul has been completely and totally ineffective as a Representative in Congress. Why would we EVER expect anything more of him as President?

 

Everything in your entire has been and will be decided by ONE person. One person determined to make that thing happen. Your computer came from one person. Your car came from one person. This country came from one person.
One determined person is behind everything. One person that loves to bull(*)(*)(*)(*) to hear himself bull(*)(*)(*)(*), accomplishes nothing. The words for that person are bull(*)(*)(*)(*) failure. The word for the one person that is determined to make things happen, and DOES, is LEADER!

And I will keep coming back to the FACT that Paul was an absolute 3 decade failure in congress until he actually accomplishes something. Which he will not do.

In but a few more trying, tiring months he will fade into a dim, unimportant memory. If many of his ideas would live on in the life of a LEADER, that would be great. Then they might be in the hands of that ONE person that would bring them into EFFECT, instead of wasted air.

 

How much evidence do you need, and how often does it need to slap you in the face?


Mehhh... Never mind. Cultists NEVER listen to anything but their leader's mantra.

 

So what your saying is you would rather have a smooth talking salesman who sell crap (bad legislation) and block good legislation?

You would rather have smooth talking demagogue drive this country into the ground than start a turn towards honest, long term positive change?

You would rather buy (*)(*)(*)(*) from someone who makes it sound good than food you need from a farmer because of his sales pitch.

If your voting on presentation and not policy maybe you shouldn't vote.