I'm looking for an answer from people that lean to the left. Sorry this is a bit long. With the circus that was the Kavanaugh confirmation, a new thought has started up from the left and an old one has resurfaced. The left now wonders why each state gets 2 Senators when clearly New York has more people than Nebraska so shouldn't New York have more. Along with this the belief that the Electoral College should be abolished and popular vote should be the law. Here is a summary of why, on the number of Senators and the Electoral College. Senators - Each state is meant to be a sovereign state and many states make up the United States. The Founders wanted each state to have an equal voice so each state gets 2 Senators. It keeps all of the states equal. Electoral College - The Founders also knew that there would always be areas with dense population and areas with sparse population. Cities for a hub of commerce, but can't support themselves, and agricultural that is needed to support the cities. Again the Founders wanted as equal as possible representation between the 2, thus the Electoral College. The left positions itself as the champion of the under represented. There image is that they fight for the rights of many small groups. Changing the Senators to be based upon the population and abolishing the Electoral College so the vote is based upon the population eliminates 2 means for representing the population as fairly as possible. So.....people backing the left. DO YOU CARE ABOUT FAIR REPRESENTATION FOR EVERYONE OR ONLY WHEN IT HELPS YOU?
Trump questioned the validity of the Electoral College - BEFORE it helped him win the White House. Hardly a right or left question.
Not hardly. Trump, as has been pointed out by many on the left and right, is scarcely a doctrinaire conservative. He is a species of populist and populists tend to be all over the political spectrum pulling in ideas from all sorts of places and discarding them if they are seen to be counter productive to the goal at hand. He can espouse a great many things but is wedded to none of them.
Ok, so the left is completely on board with this mentality. Throw out an accusation with nothing to back it up, and it's my job to prove it never happened.........Gotcha.
I don't know that the left supports this, but some libs/Dems do. Our entire political system is a sham at every level with no power or voice for the People, BUT within this sham system, the nuanced balance of rural and urban was well thought out and should not be quickly abandoned.
No, it’s just a catch phrase that the left has used for a long time, worked pretty well too. But they have overreached very badly, they are personally attacking any person “of color/minority” whenever they don’t agree with the Left. They are only the minority’s “looks wise”. But any different opinion is immediately attacked as sexist/racist/homophonic etc. this is especially true when you see countless black or Mexicans disagreeing, only to have they themselves be called vile things. They are not for minorities, in truth they are only for those that agree with them. Minority opinion is definitely not allowed
You get a response that says the opposite of what you were expecting and pretend you got what you were trolling for?
Wait, so he’s not on the far-right? A lot of people on the Left need to hear your words. Because based on what you just said, most on the Left are lying. As to the OP, I am curious as well and just chatted with my Left leaning GF about it. Do you think a Representative Republic based on each state, better fits the will of the people? Or do you feel a Direct Democracy is more fair? I personally think a Republic works far better in a country as large and diverse as the US, but can understand both arguments. I’d love to see the power that the President have cut DRAMATICALLY. Create a lower level set of federal laws that are unbreakable, then let the states decide how they want to take things. Using the abortion topic as an example, Federal law would make all abortion legal up to a certain point, call it 3-5 months. After meeting the federally mandated set of laws, each state can decide how far to add on or not to. California would have all the right in the world then, to allow abortions until the day of birth. With how large and diverse the country is, some states have drastically different cultures and to ignore that will casue violence. That is why I fee a direct Democracy is less fair, as cultures are more important than the number of people following them. To think otherwise is to me, very anti minority, but again, I do see both sides. He following cities were HEAVILY democratic: New York C SF LA Chicago Those four cities alone accounted for close to +5,000,000 votes. These are people that don’t understand rural life in any means at all. Likewise, the VAST majority of smaller rural counties voted for Trump in astoundingly high numbers. You guys looking for a Direct Democracy, want to nullify these people who disagree wholesale with your ideals. I don’t think either side should get their way and again, think that having a popularity contest for an over encompassing power that the President holds (greatly expanded under Obama and now Trump is taking it even further) is a complete joke. Take away a HUGE portion of Presidential power and give it to the states. Put in place a “Federal Minimum” in laws, letting states decide how they want to iron out the specific details. To me, crying one way or the other is just hyper partisanship as Republicans want to expand their advantage, while Democrats try to expand their own. IMO, this is one of the main reasons that politics is a joke at the current time
I have not heard that "The left now wonders why each state gets 2 Senators when clearly New York has more people than Nebraska so shouldn't New York have more." I have heard some Conservatives state that the Seventeenth Amendment to the Constitution should be repealed so that Senators are appointed by state legislators are not chosen by popular vote as it used to be. If you asked me to name one thing America could do right now to remedy many of our national problems, my response would be simple: Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment. Do it yesterday. The Framers of the Constitution originally gave state legislatures the power to participate in federal lawmaking by choosing senators to represent their interests in Washington. Through a campaign of misinformation, progressive reformers successfully removed that rightful power from the states. It’s high time we gave it back. http://thefederalist.com/2017/08/08/time-repeal-17th-amendment-end-direct-election-senators/
Please understand when you start calling everyone from Adolph Hitler to libertarians far right after awhile it is axiomatic just to lump anyone who disagrees with you and everyone you don't like into the same stew.. It isn't necessarily lying but it is damn well intellectually lazy. Just remember in order for it to be a lie you have to be aware of the what the truth is and that it differs from your statement. Most people currently supporting the statist left, don't even truly understand the monstrosity they support.
It's an old story, but the call has been renewed since Kavanaugh. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-issue/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.47621e2e1bfc
