The Myth of the Fatherless Black Child

I'm unfamiliar with Shawn Rochester, but thank you for introducing him here. I'll study him in greater detail later.

But I do find it tiresome that you can so easily dismiss Charles Payne as a "sellout" -- and to do that cavalierly, without any reason given why you would say that. Perhaps very much like Mr. Rochester, the one thing that Charles Payne could be found "guilty" of is succeeding in life. If the pursuit of success is a crime, then why do so many of us aspire to becoming "criminals"...?!

 

Are you not literally doing the exact same thing? You have already said you refuse to read people’s alternative points of view. You are quite literally complaining about the exact same thing you do.

 

That is a very good resumé no doubt. However the article I read was nothing more than an opinion piece with zero real world examples to back it up. If it had real world examples you are quite free to copy and paste them for everyone to see or you can continue calling me racist, whichever you feel discredits me quicker I suppose.

 

I do so because I have read him and listened to him. You can drop the racist assumption that Payne is disliked because he is successful. Because if blacks hated success, then Oprah, Magic Johnson and many others would be disliked. There is a reason Rochester is respected by blacks and Payne isn't and you don't want to see it because you are too wrapped up into believing some racist narrative about black self-inflicted failure that can be disproven by showing you all kinds of government policies that created the situation blacks live in today.

 

Funny how Wilson did present real world examples of how removing industry impact blacks but you couldn't see it because you are enamored with Sowell due to the fact he blames blacks and ignore the impact of racism. You are called a racist because your opinion is the same as racists.

 

I have read and heard these men. They are examples of blacks who have internalized racism to the extent of accepting what whites say about blacks. Their opinions are inaccurate and should not be considered in any serious discussion of race..

 

Yes it actually is. The study of social behavior is really quite important.

 

Well you can make a reasoned argument on that in the thread.

 

There is no reason to do so with a person so ignorant to believe that the study of human social behavior is not a real academic subject.

 

Junior, I can post 200 years of public policy. Whites are not populated so highly on those jobs because of their high IQ.

They are there precisely because of racism and white privilege.

 

If what you say was true, the United States would be as impoverished as every black majority, black run country in the world.

 

marriage is becoming less a thing for all races

single parent homes are becoming less too as men are checking out, getting fixed, sex is the same, just no risk of pregnancy

 

So... were you going to go ahead and tell us why Mr. Rochester is respected (and Mr. Payne isn't)?

I'm trying to understand your thought processes....

 

It's been explained. Why you only consider the opinions of Payne and Sowell and telling anyone black how they should read them is evidence of your thought processes.

 

What I can say is true and when you look at all those impoverished black countries, their is one thing they have in common, white colonization that killed their prosperity.

 

conservaliberal,

You need to stop reading American Rennaissance garbage.

How Europe Underdeveloped Africa. Walter Rodney 1973 (abahlali.org)

 

Were they prosperous before European colonialism?

 

Well I wouldn't say that. What I would say is they are intellectually lazy. They are happy to believe right-wing myths and propaganda that align with their biases and look no further. They are self-satisfied knowing they have under them, what they believe, a lower class that they can feel superior to and they look for ways to reinforce that.

You just ignored 400 years of US history.

 

Yeah, you described it best. Intellectually lazy.

 

I didn't say ONE WORD about Sowell, and you aren't bothering to write ONE WORD to support your criticism of Payne. I tried to find something of interest in what you have to say, but you refuse to say anything that has any validity or merit at all. So, go peddle your vacuous spew to someone else; I've no more time for it....

 

Yes.

This 14th-Century African Emperor Remains the Richest Person in History
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You're the one spewing and you are the one who speaks with no validity. I am black, and have seen racism all my life, I don't need to read what another black person says then explain why I reject it in order to satisfy something like you. I have said all I am going to say about Payne. Find other blacks besides those who tell you what you want to hear.

 

Thank you for your oh-so informative, erudite, eight-word reply. It conveys much about the way your mind works ....

 

I wouldn't care if you were green with yellow polka dots, if you're going to come into an open forum, criticize other people harshly -- and then not even bother to defend your sentiments, you're intellectually dishonest. It wants MORE than launching attacks, and then smugly claiming the authenticity to do so merely because you're Black.

In case you haven't noticed, since The Civil Rights Act of 1964, we've had a national commitment to being a colorblind nation... and except for unconstitutional 'crutches' like "Affirmative Action", we've made a success of it. So, go peddle your worn out clichés about 'racism' somewhere else. Hint: it ain't 1924! The rest of us are living in 2024!