The New Climate Reality

actually record highs in the 40 s reaching almost 50 degrees in a little town that is now evacuated.......and destroyed by fire. (Fires are the natural progression of such intense heat.)

 

He meant the 1930s. Temps in this range happened in that area in the 1930s.

 

OK...... thanks. for clarifying.

 

The ecology of the planet is changing and we are losing alpine species at an unprecedented rate but somehow that is not an issue

 

Did they? Link?

 

It's caused by the changes in the jetstreams. The jetstreams are changing due to changing ocean currents. The ocean currents are driven by differences in temperature and this could be 'in part' due to global warming and melting ice in the northern hemisphere.

However, since most of the temperature rise is occurring in the north pole (regionally), I would like to know if deep sea volcanic or crust activity could be playing a heavy role in these changes. More deep sea and geological studies need to be done.

 

I will not dispute more studies need to be done but to cause that much heat rise over that big an area we would likely be looking at a Yellowstone super volcano event

I think I would prefer the climate change option

 

Try this.

https://weather.com/forecast/region...-heat-wave-northwest-washington-oregon-canada

 

in keeping with the info on your link:

B.C. Wildfires: Lytton evacuated as 'catastrophic' fire destroys '90 per cent' of village


https://link.vancouversun.com/view/5a8c8e4024c17c2f52ffc7c7ehjbt.2up/8b2479f3

 

Maybe this 50% of fellow citizens you're talking about will learn that plants need CO2 to survive.

In the late 1970's - early '80s, the 'scientists' told us we were about to freeze to death. CO2 levels were 330 ppm (parts per million). Now CO2 levels are 410 ppm. PARTS PER MILLION.

Don't like this tiny increase? Plant a few more trees, problem solved.

It's called the weather.

 

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Or a lot of hard to find small ones and hotter than surface volcanoes.

https://oceantoday.noaa.gov/deepoceanvolcanoes/

Even the large ones can go unnoticed.

Very important read. This was more than a decade ago so it would be nice if they did more research on this. The funding for global warming research is enormous... Unless it interferes with the political agenda.
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-06/haog-fut062508.php

 

Thanks for proving my point, Thomas.

 

I am not against moving to renewable sources of energy. There are many other reasons as to why we should move that direction other than just Global Warming. The issues I have are more related to the how the Left tends to try and get there. Its idiotic and counter productive. For example, they think that by buying and electric car they are saving the environment. This is incorrect. A lot needs to be done before electric cars will be of any benefit in reducing CO2 emissions. The majority of the problem we have is with burning carbon fuels at the power plants themselves and not to mention the 30% loss in wasted energy in transporting that electricity to your vehicle. We need nuclear as a sustainable baseline for our energy needs. We need Tidal Power Dams. We ABSOLUTELY need Sodium Thermal Storage. https://www.renewableenergyworld.co...vides-highly-efficient-thermal-storage-52873/

Biden is probably going waste 5 trillion on electric car subsidies and meters and forget to build the REAL infrastructure. I am sure our electric grid will do well when the load increases triple and we end up burning more carbon fuels to keep up! It will be a fun winter for sure.

 

And we need plants to soak up the co2

 

Sorry but you are about five years out of date with this. And yes electric vehicles are evolving that rapidly

 

I agree with you that we need to tackle the situation with multiple approaches, however, considering the pushback Biden is getting from the other side of the aisle, the Dems are going to need to break this down into individual measures to get it through Congress. Once again, obstructionism is the problem, not a lack of solutions.

 

You will have elaborate.

 

The point is, you will get less obstruction if you actually promote real infrastructure rather than offer electric vehicle subsidies and rebuild existing roads that do not need it. Electric vehicles will still be "subsidized" through cheaper electricity. The right supports nuclear. They would support solar if you delt with the nighttime issue by building thermal storage.

 

If you think our transportation infrastructure is not important, I disagree. Biden is a big fan of Amtrak, and so am I. It is a disgrace how we treat our railways in this country. We are way behind the 8 ball on efficient railroads in this country and our highway system can no longer keep up. We definitely need to reinvent the way we get around.

I'm not opposed to nuclear power, but you're fooling yourself if you think you're going to be able to sell that to the community you want to put that nuclear plant in. I haven't seen the other side of the aisle offer anything of value to this debate, but you're welcome to highlight it.

 

We don't need railways. That's outdated thinking. We need fully automated highway systems for AI driven semi trucks. The rails are too restrictive and less fluid. The automated semi trucks will be able to exit the highway system and transport directly to facilities without having to be loaded and unloaded at ports. It could also evolve into a human bussing system once the AI evolves enough and people get more comfortable.
For long distance human travel we need electric planes.

If big cities want amtraks for their use, they can pay for it.

 

Wait, you want to invest in automated highways to transport goods, but not people???

I don't know where you live, but we already have that in place in most cities with a port -- not an automated system, but a transport system from the ship to the stores. The only real conceivable way to make that more automated with the tech we have today is to dedicate a highway for that purpose alone. In other words, no one can drive on it. That sure as hell seems to me like a waste of money that doesn't really add much value to our infrastructure.

I remember reading an article last month that a lot of the companies behind AI cars are starting to give up on the idea, that maybe with faster processors it might be possible, but the accidents with these test cars keep pointing out far too many issues. We actually might stand a better chance of investing in flying cars.

Regardless, the transition to electric and alternative fuels has to be part of the plan.

 

Not sure I agree, a properly laid out long distance rail network can remove a hell of a lot of containers and hence vehicles off a nations highway network, reducing congestion and wear and tear on roads and bridges while also increasing travel times. This won't necessarily be the case in all circumstances but it will in many.

 

The transition to electric is a total joke. More CO2 is created in the making of electric cars and wind turbines than the actual cars and turbines save in CO2 emissions. Total joke!

When you're charging your electric car....the plug goes back to the power plant that is likely fueled by either natural gas or coal....fossil fuels...and natural gas being a 'greenhouse gas'.

Natural gas is extracted from the ground in the same way as is oil....by fracking.

You have achieved nothing but a long extension cord from a fossil-fired power plant as compared to gasoline made at a refinery. Both are traced back to the same drill hole in the ground.

 

Natural greening is helping and I doubt the info graphic is taking into consideration that the trees ar replanted. They are adding CO2 as if the tree were releasing the stored CO2 even though the tree isn't likely being used for firewood. Instead, the tree is being used to build homes, where it is preserved a long time. New trees take their place rapidly growing in their infancy pulling and storing more CO2.

 

From the source:

The $1.2 trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure Framework is a critical step in implementing President Biden’s Build Back Better vision. The Plan makes transformational and historic investments in clean transportation infrastructure, clean water infrastructure, universal broadband infrastructure, clean power infrastructure, remediation of legacy pollution, and resilience to the changing climate. Cumulatively across these areas, the Framework invests two-thirds of the resources that the President proposed in his American Jobs Plan.
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It won't happen overnight, but it points us in the right direction, rather than just spinning our wheels.