The New Mandarins

Giftedone · Nov 11, 2019

garyd said: ↑

You misunderstand. I am not referencing politicians red or blue at all. Instead I am referencing our increasingly ineffective and venal administrative state.
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OK .. my bad - the comment about Blue/Trump threw me off.

I agree completely with your comments with respect our system . .. we are focusing on the wrong issues and falling behind.

ImNotOliver · Nov 11, 2019

opion8d said: ↑

Some Democrats have a hard time accepting the fact that arrogance and dismissal of the working class and Red States cost them the 2016 election. Some still don't get it but for others 2016 was a wakeup call. Those "some Democrats" have a genuine dislike of red states as being red - neck, uneducated, and stupid. The rest of the Democratic Party has reached the conclusion that 2016 was largely their fault, which is a good thing.

On the other hand, Republicans made a huge mistake as they continue to support a man clearly unfit to hold the office. There were a number of Republican candidates that were qualified for the job (Jeb Bush was my favorite). Sticking with the unfortunate choice through thick and thin, has compounded the mistake. Now it's their turn to "come to Jesus."
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I really do not believe the line about Democrats dismising and ignoring the middle class. In fact Obama Care, consumer and employee protections and opposition to the Republican tax cuts are specifically to help the average man, blue collar as well as white collar workers. I don't know if you noticed, but a good portion of those voters who make cities so blue, are members of the working class.

I will go as far as to say the working class gets a much better deal in blue states than red ones.

spiritgide · Nov 11, 2019

garyd said: ↑

In old China slightly pre Confucious the emperor a wise man as men go decided he needed some help administering the state because the whole thing was just too complicated too much stuff going on and way too many people for one man, however wise, to keep up with so he sent assistants out into the towns and villages to find the best and brightest young adults to be brought back to the capital and trained in the art of management so that could then return home and accurately report to the emperor what was happening to better aid him making decisions for the empire. The system worked well for a while but in the end Mandarins grew their nails quite long to show their contempt for those who did manual labor and looked down on those they were supposed to be serving and became loyal only to themselves and there perks. They ran China for every foreign conqueror and emperor until Mao exterminated them in his power take over in the fifties.

I say all this to point out the fact that our own mandarins have become just like those of old China, contemptuous of those not like themselves, vein and arrogant myopic to the point that they not only can't create new ideas on their own after all they've got their formulae that they have always used but immune to new ideas that are brought before them. They will drag us to hell if we let them get awau with the crap they are doing to DJ Trump.
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And sadly- as well as dangerously- a lot of those people hold positions in education, but are promoting political dissension rather than educating.

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