The Nuclear Annihilation of Israel?

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  1. Ironball

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    I understand your sentiments and I have considered the implications.

    What this illustrates however is the feckless nature of the U.N. with it's competing interests, political jousting, inconsistencies, corruptions, scandals, and dismal record around the globe.

    I realize that as of now, there is not a better mechanism to deal with issues but they are a sorry lot.

    I don't believe a consensus could ever be reached for a retaliatory strike on any nation that initiated a nuclear attack. We can't even get consensus on simple matters as sanctions or human rights violations.

    It is what it is.
     
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    I don't agree. It is Iran that has been the aggressor and has repeated proclaimed their ambition to wipe Israel from the map. All Israel has said is that they will protect themselves. If Iran continues to threaten Israel, I wouldn't feel bad if they did a very "thorough" preemptive strike.

    Unlike the US, who has become weak in our foreign policy, Israel doesn't mess around. Maybe Iran shoudl change their idea about destroying Israel. If they don't, they may end up in a sea of glass.

    In either case, its none of our business. We need to stop getting involved in that part of the world!
     
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    I agree with ALL the points you made.

    Apparently, the IRREFUTABLE FACT that Iran is the epitome of an IslomaFscist Terrorist Swine Nation. And, the fact that IRAN declared an UNDECLARED WAR against us in Iraq for ~ 5 YEARS......AND, Iran has made threats of TOTAL ANNIHILATION against Israel, AND its populace DAILY on a CONTINUING BASIS for NUMEROUS YEARS ...... And, the FACT that Israel has ALREADY fought 5 or 6 Wars where it woulda been TOTALLY ANNIHILATED if it lost ......which makes Israel positively fed up with being threatened by the Theological Whackjobs of Iran who are COMMITTED to the belief that they are fulfilling God's Will in destroying Anerica as the GREAT SATAN....and Israel as the LITTLE SATAN......

    All these factors are obviously MEANINGLESS to the IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine and their Supporters who continuously sing the same song of APPEASEMENT for these IslamoFascist Psychos of Iran .....treating them, ostensibly, as PEACFUL VICTIMS of foreign aggression ....by America (THE GREAT SATAN), in particular.

    RIDICULOUS & PATHETIC !!!
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, really what's wrong with it? They have nuclear neighbors and they have their own resources to protect. They have been threatened time and again by an aggressive nuclear state, Israel. For them to develop their own nuclear weapons seems logical. Whether we agree or disagree on their ideological interests or their national interests, they are a sovereign nation, they have a right to protect themselves. Aside from proxy intervention, Iran has shown no outward aggression towards anyone in decades. Israel on the other hand has invaded other nation states, and shown outward aggression numerous times in the past few decades. Using such a balance sheet, Iran seems to be the far more responsible party and far more deserving of weapons to protect themselves.
     
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    Iran is not stupid enough to nuke Israel. They have to know Israel has a triad defense. She has 3 or 4 nuclear armed subs, missiles and aircraft that can turn Iran into an isolated desert even if hit first. Like the US, Israel always keeps nuclear armed aircraft flying all the time in case she is hit first.

    I think Israel would be stupid to attack Iran's nuclear plants. No way to be sure they got everything. It would bring a retaliation strike from Iran and it could bring Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas into it. All who have rockets and missiles to hit Israel. That could lead to a nuclear war, but one which Israel would also lose.
     
  6. Ironball

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    That "proxy" intervention is not small potatoes. In fact, much of it are actual act's of full blown war. From their part in killing 241 U.S. troops in '83, their buildup, training and supplying of Hezbollah and Hamas. The hundreds of U.S. troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan by Irans enhanced IED's, and so much more. These incidents are by definition "outward aggression" and fomenting terrorism and war.
     
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    This ^

    Listen to Marines.
     
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    The originator of the OP is old enuf to remember the slogan in the U.S. of the 50s: "Better dead than Red!" M.A.D. was preferable to a Communist takeover of America (& the world)....

    The nation of Israel has that 'same mentality' in their survival; and so the game will continue against the nation who has often threatened them with destruction, and who desires to bring forth the 12th Imam via global war....as Yul would say, "so it has been written, and so it shall be done."

    NOTE: A modern 'nuclear Masada' is not beyond the realm of possibility!
     
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    By proxy has and always will be an acceptale tactic used by nation states to further their national and strategic interests. We do it all over the world, every powerful nation does. At the moment their focus is against us, while that's unfortunate for us, we have no room to whine about it, not saying you are but others do. The use proxies is acceptable because it eliminates hot wars between competing interests. Got to go will continue later.
     
  10. loong

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    CG,

    I agree with you except for your statement:"We need to stop getting involved in that part of the world!"

    We should get involved in that part of the World by supporting Israel in her dealings,whatever they may be, against an IslamoFascist Terrorist nation that is a threat not only to Israel as the LITTLE SATAN, but us, as the GREAT SATAN ...... and, incidentally, the WORLD with Iran's financing of World Terrorism thru its perfidious mosques everywhere throughout Europe.

    ISLAMOFASCIST TERRORIST SWINE AND THEIR SUPPORTERS WANT TO PLACE IRAN, THE EPITOME OF AN ISLAMOFASCIST TERRORIST NATION ON THE SAME FOOTING AND EQUAL RESPECT AS SOME NON-HOSTILE NATION LIKE BELGIUM, SWITZERLAND, ETC.........BULLCRAP !!!! IRAN IS A NATION CONTROLLED BY OBVIOUSLY DANGEROUS PSYCHO ISLAMOFASCIST TERRORIST THEOLOGICAL SWINE !!!
     
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    Also: Israel is a tiny country, Iran is much larger and much of it is rugged terrain, ideal for concealing things like, say, NUKES!

    The best solution might be to let the mossad handle it...put a couple of "suitcase" nukes in Iran's research sites and fire off one. Whoops, looks like someone REALLY SCREWED UP!
     
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    Remember that one time we (USA) used live ICBMs? It's an insurance policy, meant for nothing more than intimidation, and retaliation. I bet the middle east would be more stable if every one of them acted like israel.
     
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    A very accurate observation. Thanks.
     
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    Why would anyone want to act like a war criminal state like israel?

    NO MORE WARS FOR JEWS.

    Iran has not threatened anyone.

    They are lies by zionist warmongerers and their criminals.

    Dont you just love how these zionist scumbags lie about Iran....and take their words out of context...typical of jews who lie like their father, satan.
     
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    The good guys are supposed to wait until they are attacked by the bad guy who does not play by the rules.

    Does not sound like a viable option for long. What about the regulations on the rogue state that is in violation of nuclear rules?
     
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    They have been. Repeatedly over the years by proxies of Iran North and South.
     
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    That could stop instantly if Israel would get out of Shaaba Farms and the Golan Heights.
     
  18. loong

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    Which planet in the galaxy did you beam down from?

    Iran, and some of the other IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine consider America the GREAT SATAN, and Israel the LITTLE SATAN......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Did Israel DEFEND itself in 5 or 6 Wars where its opponents, The islamoFascist Terrorist Swine, threaten Israel & its populace with TOTAL ANNIHILATION if israel lost......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    The Palestinian IslamoFacist Terrorist Swine use their women and children as HUMAN SHIELDS in battles against the Israelis.....IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    The Palestinian IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine use their women & children as suicide bombers and blow themselves and the israelis (whether they are women & children) to bits and pieces ......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    If YOUR country wherever it is (BTW, Palestine is not a "Country"), had fought 5 or 6 Wars of TOTAL ANNIHILATION of its population, won and survived. Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume the worse from an IslamoFascist Terrorist Country, controlled by Theological Whackjobs who DAILY, and CONTINUOUSLY FOR YEARS threatened your extinction, be apprehensive of those IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine ....... IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Has Iran been in an UNDECLARED WAR with America in Iraq for ~ FIVE YEARS .....IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Has the IslamoFascist Theologically Controlled Iran, and its Psycho Spokesman Ahmadinehad DAILY threaten Israel with TOTAL ANNIHILATION lo these many years .....IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Is it kinda IDIOTIC to claim that Iran, with its financing of RECOGNIZED Terrorist Organizations like the Hezbollah, Hamas, etc., is NOT an IslamoFascist Controlled Nation .......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Is it kinda RIDICULOUS to assume that Iran is anywhere close to being a "peaceful" Nation in comparison with, say, Belgium, Switzerland, Denmark, etc .......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    I suppose I could go on .....but, assuming one is a rational person, my point is clear.

    I realize, predictably, what an IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine's answer will be to each of my questions above......if those IslamoFascist Terrorist Cowardly Swine have the audacity to answer.
     
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    Now you know what the answer of the Islamofascist Terrorist Swine will be to your question.
     
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    Iran will never bomb Israel.. and the Israelis know that.

    The Israelis are ramping up the rhetoric again because of their recent betrayal of the peace plan.
     
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    Israel does not want a nuclear Iran because it would give too much leverage to one of the oil states in that region that is the big fear of the west too, that the arabs have the military power and ruin the oil markets with outrageous prices
     
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    Iran is in trouble.. Their oil production is declining and they have to spend $6 billion a year importing gas..

    The Iranians have gas rationing .. 32 gallons a month. (or is that liters??)

    Iran also needs $48 billion in investment capital to develop South Pars.

    Outrageous prices? Is that what the Israelis are saying now?

    The Arabs have to sell oil.. they can't eat it.
     
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    the arabs already get enough money from oil if they had a nuclear power in that region they would have more influence on the oil market being a supplier and military power

    oil is like food to the west and the arabs have the most of it, if israel wants to take iran out anyone in the west should support it or accept higher gas prices
     
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    Yep, let's have America set an example by giving most of our Southern States to Mexico: Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California......

    Or better still......lets just all migrate somewhere, say to the Antarctica.

    The reason I say Antarctica instead of Arctica because I don't want to offend the Eskimoes, and/or the polar bears.
     
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    I expect they will all have nuclear power and desalination before the decade is out.

    Nobody in the region wants war on Iran except Israel.
     

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