The Nuclear Annihilation of Israel?

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  1. Abu Sina

    Abu Sina New Member

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    In a way I suppose it is a bit like Obama and the birth certificate. He watched you all go crazy and out of your minds and sat and laughed his head off.
    You can bet he was laughing at you all.

    it's only when you all got hysterical and dangerous as we are seeing the zionists do now that the laughing has to stop and the hysterical crazy people put out of their misery.
    that will come when there are found to be no WMD's but by then Najadi and the rest of us will be dust and that's the way to die. Being attacked by fanatics who are morally lost and you sitting minding your own business and laughing at fools being lied to and lying.

    In fact go back and watch any footage of him being asked to explain and you will see him smile.
     
  2. Subdermal

    Subdermal Banned

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    None of this - including calling me anothers "fools" (violation of TOS) - answers my question.

    Is your position in this thread now being reduced to not only denying that Ahmahnutjob said he wants to destroy Israel...but now not only denying that Ahmahnutjob wants to destroy Zionism...to claiming that he was only quoting someone else...

    ...and doesn't want to destroy Zionism?

    :-D

    :ignore:
     
  3. Subdermal

    Subdermal Banned

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    Um...wat? :-?
     
  4. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    ??? There is no violation. Only signatory nations are bound by the NPT treaty.
     
  5. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, good. That's okay then.
     
  6. Subdermal

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    You admitted yourself that destroying Naziism required leveling Germany. You are now flailing about.

    You and others claimed that Ahmahnutjob was actually talking about destroying Zionism, instead of destroying Israel.

    You have yet to answer this question:

    How does Ahmahnutjob destroy Zionism without destroying Israel?

    Are you too now reduced to such minimal participation in this thread as the position that Ahmahnutjob doesn't wish to destroy Zionism either?


    :-D
     
  7. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Doesnt concern you people that Iran is in violation of the NPT. Why sould we be concerned with imaginary violations of countries that arent even a party to the agreement.
     
  8. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    It is true that Israel has refused to join the NPT but all member nations of the NPT have an obligation under that treaty to take all actions necessary to disarm any nation that refuses to join the NPT and that possesses nuclear weapons. Not being a member of the NPT does not exclude a nation from facing economic sanctions and enforcement by NPT member nations.

    N Korea, once a member of the NPT that withdrew in 2003, is an example of how rogue nuclear weapon nations are to bee addressed by members of the NPT. Economic sanctions identical to those imposed on N Korea need to be implemented against India, Pakistan and Israel until they voluntarily dismantle their nuclear weapons.
     
  9. submarinepainter

    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am positive I know next to nothing :) and yes one does have to consider the source .
     
  10. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The IAEA has not established that Iran has produced a nuclear weapon which would be a violation of the NPT. In fact it is well known that Iran does not possess a nuclear weapon. The NPT doesn't prohibit theoretical research related to nuclear weapons but instead only prohibits the production of nuclear weapons. IAEA inspections are limited to inspecting nuclear materials to ensure that weapons grade nuclear materials are not diverted to produce a nuclear weapons. So far Iran in in compliance with this condition of the NPT.

    Additional protocols that have been added to the NPT which require additional access, such as inspecting of research facilities, have not been ratified by Iran to my knowledge and Iran does not have to comply with additional protocols that it has not ratified.
     
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    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    to refer to them as trash makes me discount your argument.
     
  12. Abu Sina

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    well sorry but there is just no other word for it

    put here with a link to a quote by the man himself where he says 'I will destroy Israel' or 'I want to destroy Israel'

    go ahead show me the proof
     
  13. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    It is a good way to lose an argument. When irrational bigotry is the foundation for an argument it is disregarded by all intelligent people.
     
  14. submarinepainter

    submarinepainter Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "all men are created equal " I love that:)
     
  15. Abu Sina

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    Well Sub dermal????

    where is your proof?

    we are all waiting
     
  16. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Far be it from us to deny a boy his hopes and dreams.
     
  17. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Apparently there is a lack of reading of the thread. I do not propose the annihilation of any nation with the exception of any nation that resorts to the use of a nuclear weapon. Nuclear war is unacceptable and any nation that starts a nuclear war should face immediate nuclear retallation for their actions.

    I certainly hope that Israel will not start a nuclear war and home that the annihilation of no nation is necessary but only the threat of total annihilation can possibly prevent any nation from using a nuclear weapon.
     
  18. loong

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    One wonders which planet in the galaxy these IslamoFascist Freaks, and/or their Idiotic Supporters beam down from ?

    Let me pose some obviously rhetorical questions:

    Iran, and the other IslamoFascist Swine consider America the GREAT SATAN, and Israel the LITTLE SATAN......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Did Israel DEFEND itself in 5 or 6 Wars where its opponents, The islamoFascist Terrorist Swine, threaten Israel & its populace with TOTAL ANNIHILATION if Israel lost......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    The Palestinian IslamoFacist Terrorist Swine use their women and children as HUMAN SHIELDS in battles against the Israelis.....IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    The Palestinian IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine use their women & children as suicide bombers and blow themselves and the israelis (whether they are women & children) to bits and pieces ......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    If YOUR Nation, wherever it is (BTW, Palestine is not a "Nation"), had fought 5 or 6 Wars of the TOTAL ANNIHILATION of its existence, including its population .....and, fortunately, won and survived...... Wouldn't it be reasonable to assume the worse from IslamoFascist Terrorist Countries, controlled by or strongly influenced by Theological Whackjobs who DAILY, and CONTINUOUSLY FOR YEARS threatened your extinction ? Wouldn't that make one apprehensive of those IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine ? ....... IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Has Iran been in an UNDECLARED WAR with America in Iraq for ~ FIVE YEARS .....IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Has the IslamoFascist Theologically Controlled Iran, and its Psycho Spokesman Ahmadinehad, or other IslamoFascist Leaders or the Influential Wahhabi Scum made it clear that they wish for the TOTAL ANNIHILATION of Israel , the LITTLE SATAN ? ......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Is it kinda IDIOTIC to claim that Iran, with its financing of RECOGNIZED Terrorist Organizations like the Hezbollah, Hamas, etc., is NOT an IslamoFascist Controlled Nation .......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    Is it kinda RIDICULOUS to assume that Iran is anywhere close to being a "peaceful" Nation in comparison with, say, Belgium, Switzerland, Denmark, etc .......IS THAT A FACT ? Yes or No ?

    I suppose I could go on .....but, assuming one is a rational person, my point is clear.

    I realize, predictably, what IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine, and/or their Freaky Supporters will answer to each of my questions above.

    They will deny REALITY and obfuscate the issue with the parsing of terminology, ex: Israel not = Zionism. Therefore, by some Pretzel-type logic the 5or 6 WARS OF TOTAL ANNIHILATION that Israel faced should be ignored. Or, Iran ....... who is in an UNDECLARED WAR with us for ~FIVE YEARS by attacking us FIRST .....is a PEACEFUL NATION.....and it is WE, the AMERICANS that are "VICTIMIZING" them. Oh Yeah !!!

    I have read the recent crappola in this thread where the IslamoFascist Apologist Freaks, and/or their Idiotic Supporters have inundated this thread with: the 1/2 truths, the OUTRIGHJT LIES where .....GARGANTUAN LEAPS from some 1/2 -truth leads them to INSANE CONCLUSIONS....such as denying the obvious and CONTINUOUS threats of TOTAL ANNIHILATION against Israel as NOT, somehow, being consistent with their OBVIOUS TRUMPETED COMMITMENT FOR DECADES that America is the GREAT SATAN. And, Israel the LITTLE SATAN.

    Question: what would a Religious Whackjob want to do with the GREAT SATAN, and/or the LITTLE SATAN ????? Give them a BJ.....or WIPE THEM OFF THE FACE OF THE WORLD .......as these Crazed Buttholes have been howling and yowling about ????

    But, NOW, suddenly, we have the ridiculous obfuscating misinformation and BULLCRAP that Israel...the gallant Nation that fought off 5 or 6 WARS OF TOTAL ANNIHILATION is NOT the victim of these CRAZED ISLAMOFASCIST BUTTHOLES but that the CRAZED ISLAMOFASCIST BUTTHOLES who tried to wipe Israel off the Map of The World.......THEY are the VICTIMS !!!

    This RIDICULOUS NONSENSE is supposedly substantiated by the parsing of terminology. Or, comparing, and EQUATING a mistaken attack by an Israeli Squadron on our destroyer (which our Govt acknowledged as being a mistake) with approx FIVE YEARS OF AN UNDECLARED WAR IN IRAQ where 4000+ of our finest were killed.

    These IslamoFascist Freaks, and/or their Idiotic Supporters want us to go into some LOONEY FANTASY WORLD and believe that this "VICTIMIZED" ISLAMOFASCIST TERRORIST SWINE" are not TERRORISTS by committing the 9/11 slaughter of innocents......that it is the ISLAMOFASCIST TERRORIST SWINE are the "VICTIMS" !!!!!

    As stated by me numerous times before, it is absolutely ridiculous to think that one can convince the IslamoFascist Freaks, or their Idiotic Supporters, about the REALITY of the IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine committed to an Agenda of a MURDEROUS THEOLOGICAL IDEOLOGY diguised as a "RELIGION" ..... but actually is a POLITICAL FORCE similar to FASCISM or COMMUNISM as practiced by the PSYCHOS like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot.

    My purpose for posting on this issue is to, hopefully, provide the rational readers with the correct perception. And, ammunition to counter the IslamoFascist Freaks, and/or their Idiotic Supporters.

    Actually, I am getting bored with this.

    The REALITY is really very OBVIOUS.
     
  19. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not a bit. I am terrified that they wont get arms in time to frighten off the colonialist madmen, who have attacked country after country in their oil-fired imperialism.
     
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    Building a nuclear weapon isnt the only way to violate the NPT.
     
  21. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    That is true as furnishing nuclear materials to another nation without approval is also a violation. My point was that there are no prohibitions against a nation doing the theoretical work required to design or produce a nuclear weapon so long as a nuclear weapon is not built. S Africa is a perfect example of a nation that has the designs and knowledge to produce nuclear weapons but is not in violation of the NPT because of it. Knowledge is not prohibited.

    Additionally no nation is required to comply with additional protocols to the NPT that the country has never agreed to. When I last read the NPT is was exclusively about preventing nuclear materials from being diverted from energy production to weapons uses. That is the reason for IAEA inspections as the IAEA tracks nuclear materials. To my knowledge Iran does allow the IAEA to track all nuclear materials.
     
  22. Wrathful_Buddha

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    IF Israel used nukes on Iran, I seriously doubt that other nations would strike Israel because it is tacitly understood how dangerous it would be for an Islamic country to have nuclear weapons. Israel may not be a popular country right now, but we know they aren't bat (*)(*)(*)(*) crazy like Islamic countries.
     
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    Actually... its a toss up which is crazier... Iran or Israel.
     
  24. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No toss-up at all: Iran is just a somewhat distorted democracy, 'Israel' a bad re-make of the Third Reich, produced by fat clowns.
     
  25. creation

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    The thing is..subdermal, youve defeated us with errant logic and scholarly argumentation, leaving me deeply saddened :omg:.

    I cannot retrieve the relevant citation, basically I must admit because I am, as a liberal islamofascist, far too lazy to bother doing so.

    In fact everytime ive ever been asked for it, ive been too afraid to come forward with it because I know it will undermine my side and strenghten your side in this debate.

    The real MEMRI translation probably doesnt even exist in fact. And if I were ever able to show it, it would probably say everything you claim it says.

    Your video is absoluate incontrovertible proof of irans intention to nuke israel at the earliest oppoortunity. I hereby invite all here to admit to subdermal that theyre truly not up to his standard.

    Come on now guys. Give in, he's too good for us. :)
     

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