The Political Cow-towing to Israel

Quite a rant. Waste of time.

 

Re:

I can't think of any instance in which children are taught to hate Jews & value the friendships with Jews I've had for decades.

However, criticism of Israeli ethnic cleansing, war crimes & aggression and opposition to Zionist exploitation of the US has nothing to do with hating Jews & never has.

It's simply that apologists for Israeli criminality and Zionist domination of US Policy making etc cannot refute the truth so they attack their accusers using the only card they have, by howling "anti Semite", "Jew hater" etc.

The epithet, "anti Semite" has been overused so frequently & fraudulently that it has simply become a "white flag" of rhetorical debate.
In other words, you know when you've flushed an apologist for Israeli criminality and/or Zionist machinations as soon as they howl "anti Semite" or any of its variations.
It's simply a tacit admission that they can't refute the facts.


“An antisemite used to be someone who hates Jews; nowadays an antisemite is someone Jews hate.”
- Gilad Atzmon, Jewish musician and author, 2011

 

You don't think the Arabs teach their children to hate Jews? I see on TV a lot of teens throwing rocks at Jews, it's never the other way around. Makes me wonder what the Jews did.

 

That's Babe the Blue Ox dehorned and dyed brown.

 

They made a piece of the desert bloom and they prospered.

 

Never the other way around?

 

Many dual Israeli-US citizens populate the federal government, especially the DoD. AIPAC is the most powerful lobby in Washington, and it is not registered as an agent of a foreign government under FARA.

Basically, the US government is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Tel Aviv government, soon to be Jerusalem government, as ordered by POTUS.

 

Aren't you one of the ones who argues for a bizarre theory that Israel deliberately attacked the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967 despite no unimpeachable evidence?

 

How would you explain then the U.S. government approving of large numbers of weapons sales to historic enemies of Israel such as Egypt and Saudi Arabia?

 

US is a "pay to play" system. If you play - along with the Establishment international financiers - you get paid - and everyone knows it.

Human nature is what it is - self interest and greed. Sure there are a few "do gooders" but these will not be able to do much against a herd of stampeding bulls.

Since many of these international big money interests have a deep love of Israel - our foreign policy is then directed towards this emotion.

 

The IDF does not use rocks - they use bullets and bombs. If you don't know what the IDF has done - google it.

 

No significant weapons system gets sold to anybody without AIPAC's stamp of approval.

Now, name just one other country that has managed to extract $Trillions from an unwitting American public.(1), (2)

Meanwhile, under US Law, any aid to Israel is illegal(3) but US Laws don't apply to AIPAC etc


(1)“The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel, $3Trillion”
https://nwoobserver.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-real-cost-of-us-support-for-israel-3-trillion/

EXCERPT” While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg.”CONTINUED


(2)"The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion"
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
By Thomas R. Stauffer
EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED


(3) "Lawsuit Claims Aid to Nuclear Israel Illegal Under Symington Glenn Amendments"
https://www.corporatecrimereporter....ael-illegal-under-symington-glenn-amendments/

EXCERPT "A lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. claims that United States aid to Israel is illegal under a law passed in the 1970s that prohibits aid to nuclear powers that don’t sign the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

Such aid violates longstanding bans on foreign aid to non-signatories to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) with nuclear weapons programs, the lawsuit alleges."CONTINUED

 

And when was the last time the Israelis placed a bomb on a Arab bus or in an Arab market place?

 

When was the last time the Palestinians dropped thousand lb bombs on apartment blocks in the middle of crowded neighborhoods ?
When was the last time Palestinians shot Israeli protesters - including journalists.
When was the last time Palestinians fired Hell Fire missiles into a media center while journalists were conducting an interview with an Israeli General ? - killing and wounding innocent civilians in the process.
When was the last time Palestinians Hell Fire missiles at a car on a crowded roadway while children were walking home along that roadway from school - and were injured in the blast.

The list goes on and on but if you wish to keep score - the number of children killed by the IDF outnumbers that killed by Hamas/Hezbolla by a factor of 10-1.

Point being 1) you do not seem to have any understanding of the Palestinian/Israeli blood feud. 2) your comment was ridiculous

 

The person who answers that correctly should automatically be awarded a Ph.D.

Jew hatred is illogical. Maybe it's because they've generally been successful wherever they go and people are jealous. Maybe it's because they generally stick with their own people and are viewed as clannish. Or maybe they're just an easy scapegoat. Whatever the cause, Jew hatred says more about the hater than the Jews.

 

You forgot to mention how the 6-day war got started. And you forgot to mention the Arabs openly say they want to push the Israelis into the sea and annihilate them. There may be enough blame to go around to both people, and I may not be the best informed, but I have formed my opinion on the actions of both people, also what they say, and their cultures.

 

A long winded diatribe that boils down to anti semitism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

you trot out this stupid argument all the time. Attributing every war the U.S. fights around the Middle East to Israeli influence.

Ridiculous.

 

in the early 1980s, the Reagan Admin. sold AWACs early warning planes to Saudi Arabia despite Israel and AIPACs strong objections. I'm sure there are other examples.

 

I didn't forget anything. The 6 - day war has nothing to do with the point I was making - nor does my not mentioning this fact change the fact that you are not informed.

Anyone can have an opinion but, is it informed ? That you have no understanding of the actions on one side of the issue - speaks volumes.

In my previous post I used the term "Blood feud" - do you understand what this term means ? Both sides have engaged in bad deeds - that is the nature of a blood feud.

It is not for nothing that almost every nation on the planet has condemned Israel for its actions - numerous times over the decades that this feud has gone on.

This is not to say that Hezbolla and Hamas have not also been condemned - and deservedly so. Choosing sides in a blood feud only serves to support more violence and killing of innocents. Abject denial of the atrocities of one side - while complaining loudly about the other is hypocritical nonsense.

 

As another poster has written the Catholic Church considered the Jews to be Christ killers (decicide) and this continued until way into the 20th Century, only in the 1960s did the Pope actually rescind this dreadful slander. It begins with Mathew,

So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, "I am innocent of this man's blood; see to it yourselves." And all the people answered, "His blood be on us and on our children!"

This is called the blood curse and many historians believe that it is at the root of antisemitism.

 

TL;DR

 

Not nothing to see here. Just another person kowtowing to Israel.

 

Where is the hate? I don't see it.

 

OK, then I'll mention how the long planned "6 Day War" started or just assume you'll accept the word of one of its eyewitnesses:

“Begin's Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its Wars”
http://www.washingtonreport.me/1994-july-august/middle-east-history-begin-s-admission-in-1982-that-israel-started-three-of-its-wars.html

EXCERPT "In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him."CONTINUED


"Israel provoked the Six-Day War in 1967, and it was not fighting for survival"
https://mondoweiss.net/2017/06/provoked-fighting-survival/

EXCERPT "Finkelstein emphasizes that no genuine academic today, whatever their political orientation, endorses the Mainstream Narrative. He starts by identifying what he has called the “Two Biggest Lies.”

* The truth is that Nasser and the other Arab leaders had absolutely no intention of invading Israel in June 1967.

* And Israel’s existence was never in the slightest doubt, as both Israeli and American leaders knew that Israel could easily win any conflict, even against a coalition of Arab states."CONTINUED

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You also mentioned threats to drive others out of Palestine but mistakenly assume it was the Arabs were the first to drive invading Zionist Terrorist Gangs out:

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying
us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done
with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion
waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive
them out!"

-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin

memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.