The Polls Don't Match the Results

A woman's right to kill her own child?



If you can listen to that and be for abortion, you are sick, plain and simple.

 

As I have said THREE times already, there is the GOOD type of inflation, which is the one Biden had control over, and there is the type that he doesn't.

I already explained at least twice what the difference is.

You wanted to know why people voted for Democrats despite their concerns about the economy, and you have your answer.

 

You said: "Despite inflation, most voters can now AFFORD more."

I said: "Inflation has eroded, not improved, purchasing power: 'the average worker saw hourly pay fall 2.6% in April from a year ago after accounting for inflation, according to the Labor Department.'"

What you are saying is the opposite of reality. It's la-la land, "smoked-filled coffeehouse crap," to quote one of my favorite movies. You said that despite inflation, most voters can afford more. That is completely untrue. Full stop.

 

still delivered, just by truckers vs a pipeline - we are still buying Canadian oil

 

Both statements are true. If they can afford more now, imagine if inflation HADN'T eroded that purchase power. Everybody would be driving a Tesla.

You opened a thread asking why people voted democrat, and now you are so desperate to change the subject that you don't even READ what you quote.

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that most right-wingers can only think in binary.

 

No, they're not. Having less purchasing power means you can afford less, not more. They're completely contradictory of each other.

But they cannot afford more now. That's the point. Inflation has eroded their purchasing power.

Inflation has erased wage gains: "White-hot inflation is forcing American workers to effectively take a pay cut, federal data revealed on Wednesday." How does that reality line up with your statement that most voters can afford more, despite an effective pay cut? According to CBS, "Wages are not . . . consistently increasing to accommodate the fact that things are more expensive." All of these statements across the spectrum of media contradict your fantasy presented as if it were reality.

Again, out of 44 countries that were studied, we were the 13 highest in inflation. That is a crystal-clear testament of the Democrats' failed policies. And, trust and believe, I don't think fraud completely explains this, although I believe it is an element. I think there are a lot of dumb, ignorant voters out there that are harming this country with their ignorance and stupidity.

 

This is really pretty simple, and includes 3 primary factors driving inflation. The Democrats are absolutley not only denying it but pushing forth agendas that worsen it.

1. Monetary Policy:

During COVID trillions of dollars were printed and pumped into the economy to prop up businesses and individuals during the economic shut down. It was always known that this would result in inflationary reactions, but not many options existed. From PPP to out right sending people several rounds of free stimulus money, trillions were injected while GDP plummeted.

What do the Democrats do? Try to spend trillions more buying votes by paying off portions of people's student loans. Either they deny the stimulus resulted in inflation, or they just don't care because the election is more important.


2. Supply/Demand Unbalanced

From the "paid to stay home" to the "quietly quitting" nonsense, the democrats have emboldened and enabled millions of able body men to stay home in moms basement.

7 million men that can work aren't even looking for work, but the Democrats continue to reinforce policies that allow them to survive.

When supply can't keep up, while millions of Baby Boomers retire but still create demand, and millions of younger people refuse to work the costs of things go up due to supply shortages.

3. Energy Policy

Oil is still the world and America's primary energy source. When we reduce or hamper production, we are forced to be more reliant on other producing countries.

Europe and America desire to apply economic sanctions on Russia limiting supply and other producers raise costs as demand climbs.


The left keeps denying these three factors acting like inflation just exists and is out of their control. Victimization at its worse.

 

Just as I thought: a reading comprehension problem coupled with binary thinking.

"Erode" means you afford less than you COULD have. Not that you can afford less than before.

Most people can afford to pay more now than they did before. More people can afford to buy more things and this fact drives inflation up. But it's a GOOD thing they can afford to buy more. Then in come other factors, like inflation due to international factors. THAT "erodes" (you might want to look up the word) what was gained by the above. This is the fourth time I explain to you the difference between inflation that is good for people and that which is not good for people. I won't explain it a fifth time, so you should to read it as many times as needed.

If last Wednesday... or whenever you want... one started overcoming the other is irrelevant to anything I have said. The fact that people COULD afford more was fueling inflation... of the "good" kind (see above) People who are worried about the economy either can STILL afford more, or they didn't believe Republicans and their "tax cuts for the rich" could make it better.

 

Trucks running on diesel that's still above $5 a gallon.

Everything is delivered by diesel. Everything.

 

Wait. What.

What kind of word wizardry is this?

You literally just said the exact same thing twice.

 

Per Forbes, for 17 months in a row, wage growth is failing to keep up with inflation.
Per the New York Post, "White-hot inflation is forcing American workers to effectively take a pay cut, federal data revealed on Wednesday."
Per CBS News, "Wages are not . . . consistently increasing to accommodate the fact that things are more expensive."

How do you square your statement that people can afford more with those realities?

 

It's a looooong conversation. You would have to read it all to understand it. And even then... I'm not sure.

 

As far as I can tell, he is essentially trying to argue that more people have a higher purchasing power under inflation with Biden than they had under the economic conditions under Trump, and if inflation was not happening, their purchasing power would be even greater. Unfortunately, he is expressing that argument in a very mumbo jumbo way, which does make the head tilt.

Essentially, he is trying to argue about an economic paradox, but the reality flat-out contradicts his reasoning, as his argument does not line up with reality, as people are effectively taking a pay cut:

Per Forbes, for 17 months in a row, wage growth is failing to keep up with inflation.
Per the New York Post, "White-hot inflation is forcing American workers to effectively take a pay cut, federal data revealed on Wednesday."
Per CBS News, "Wages are not . . . consistently increasing to accommodate the fact that things are more expensive."

 

Those are irrelevant statistics to what I have said. Inflation is a global factor that affects everything EVERYBODY buys. The wage growth I am addressing is the one that has given lower and middle class (particularly lower middle class) people the ability to buy more. Which, in turn, causes inflation. Under the current employment rate, this will force businesses to pay more. And people know that. And they understand THAT will cause more inflation. And so on until we reach a balance point. But then you factor in the other inflation I explained, and it's to be expected that inflation will overtake many people's wage increases. But the U.S. government has NO control over that. And informed people know this. They also know that Republicans would make it WORSE. That's the answer to the question you asked on the OP. Now you are trying to change the subject.

 

Okay, @jcarlilesiu , this is a complete contradiction, as people's ability to buy more vanishes if inflation overtakes their wage increase. Our friend Golem was trying to walk a fine line, attempting to make a nuanced argument, but stepped on the proverbial rake.

If you were making 10 dollars an hour under Trump, and then make 15 dollars under Biden, but inflation eats up the 15, then that 15 - 15 = 0. You cannot buy more with zero dollars.

I swear, these people suck as math:

 

so do the right want to fire the truckers?

 

How I feel about abortion is irrelevant. There are a lot of women who feel very strongly about this issue. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

I'm getting tired of repeating this and I'm sure some of you are getting tired of hearing it but....
Show
Me
The
Evidence.

 

I want the market to dictate.

No you, left wing politicians, or Biden.

 

Here's a thought. Why don't you just make an argument debunking the claim?

 

So no evidence then just "feelings".....nothing more than "feelings, tell me....". IOW, hold that thought!

 

Always asking for evidence is a lazy debater's way of avoiding having to debate. A claim/statement being put forth as an argument can be addressed by itself. Simply state what's wrong with the statement and then maybe the person will defend it with evidence.

 

Depends on the debate you are having, about what and with whom. Some people are just ignorant and self absorbed like many of Crooked Donnie's hard core flock. Critical thinking ability is not partisan regardless of the aisle of choice.
IOW, an unsubstantiated claim drawn for myth is mythical. Get it?

 

Repeatedly asking for evidence isn't debating. It's a dodge of actually having to debate. You'll get more mileage out of just stating why you think the claim is wrong (with your own evidence). That puts the one who didn't support their claim on the defensive. Either they will back up their claim or resort to more nonsense (if it is nonsense). The other alternative is simply scroll past unsubstantiated claims. Picking at bones isn't very nourishing.

 

Asked and answered. Reread my pervious post. Any claim without evidence is an opinion.