The Republican Party Dilemma.

My reply was in regards to the quote I made directly before yours in the exact same sentence "If you project out to a future where minorities outnumber whites"

When I said that my answer directly addressed what I said on the matter, it was to that which I was referring. While I can see where my wording was perhaps imprecise, in that those have two different meanings, the same principle I am suggesting still applies. and this distinction changes nothing. Changes of that magnitude do not happen in a vacuum. We cannot assume that all other factors will remain equal as such impactful societal changes are reportedly taking place. As blacks become a larger share, and whites a smaller share, the same pressures to not vote based on race likely exist as their deficit becomes less pronounced, and likewise, as whites become more of a minority and even a minority versus non whites, the chances that they may begin to vote based on race increases.

If you really want to get into the weeds ( which wasn't my original intention), you could even go so far as to look at one of the primary reasons why there is such a dramatic shift afoot in regard to reported demographic projections. I heard it explained to me like this....take Ted Cruz. He is half Irish, and half Cuban. He is listed as Hispanic and is considered a minority. He married a Northern European White woman, and they have had 2 kids. Those 2 kids are considered Minorities. If these 2 kids grow up and marry white husbands and have one or two kids each, all of those will be minority as well. Pretty soon, Ted Cruz has created 7 new minorities amongst a family that for all intents and purposes is culturally all white people. Meanwhile, the only people considered white in this new census are those that are 100% white. As soon, as minority blood is in their system, they are now classified as that minority, despite the reality that these are all still people that for all intents and purposes appear white and are by all means culturally white. In truth, a lot of people considered white right now with this new census method were also minorities, myself included.

For this reason, you also may want to be careful when making assumptions about what this new projected world may do from a right-left political spectrum standpoint. You cannot just look at a higher minority census count and then assume that also means a higher vote for Democrats.

You could similarly argue that as families become more and more integrated ethnically, that voting based on race will decrease as well.

I say all of this to reiterate that there are a lot of factors that impact the ultimate outcome as to how this projected ethnic makeup impacts the overall vote. To assume that everything else remains the same does not make a lot of sense.

 

This reply is not for you, Torus, but for your inner "Ed." The people (all of them, essentially Republicans) who call it the "democrat party"-- & notice, they will often not capitalize the name, either-- do this purposely, as a disparagement, so it is a vain hope, that bringing the mistake to their attention, will lead to their "correcting" themselves.


Hope you're having a good time, on the Forum, and don't let that guy Torus34, keep you forever on a short chain, in some mental basement, if there's more you'd like to say.

 

certainly more than people who were killed with legally owned assault rifles in the hands of private US citizens in the last 90 years. The fact is, the democrats want to attract as many foreigners who want to suckle on our public teats because those teat sucklers ultimately have to vote Democrat

 

It seems as if the most uniting feeling, among the current GOP constituency, is that minorities are stealing our country, or benefitting from the work of true Americans. As Lincoln Project Senior Advisor, and former, prominent Mover in Republican politics, Stuart Stevens recently said, "There's no denying it, the Republicans have become the Party of Grievance." Oddly, it is this desire to scapegoat others, not any cohesive "conservative" philosophy, which attracts them, together. I don't see how that changes, to create a Party of inclusion.

It seems more likely that, eventually, those former Republicans who have taken a temporary shelter with Democrats, will ultimately launch their own, Third Party. While it will be smaller than the other two, this does not mean that it would not have a good deal of power. They could conceivably become the minority Party that, nevertheless, is the one that effectively makes all the decisions.

Consider the possibility, for instance, of just 20 Senate members, in this new Party, of old Republicans-- with 40 members each, representing other two, current Parties. That caucus would be needed for either side, to pass any legislation. And, without the Senate's filibuster rule, it would take a proportionately smaller number of House members, in the RONIN Party (Republicans, Only Not In Name), to exercise the same, decisive role.

 

It comes down to being informed and educated about facts relevant to the importance of liberty vs buying into the left's vitriolic rhetoric of division.

Cubans certainly don't fall for the rhetoric and lies of the Democratic Party. They know from painful experience that what the Democrats are selling is fools gold.

Most Cubans are staunch Republicans. The desire for liberty and and a life free from government interference and control means something to them because of their experiences.

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Thomas Sowell, the celebrated economist was a marxist, to whatever extent, into his mid-late 20's. It was only after having actually worked in government, and seeing what a farce it is that he took stock and changed his views.

He is in his 90's now, but there are many great clips of interviews and panels he was on that are, at least for now, still on YouTube.

I assume he will eventually be labeled at Thought Criminal, and he will be cancelled on the internet.



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Amala Ekpunobi is a black woman who was raised by a radical, leftist, Marxist mother. She bought into all of the lies if the left because that was all she knew.

She was a speaker and organizer for leftist causes. She eventually came across Thomas Sowell on YouTube, and it changed her life.

She now hosts a podcast for PragerU, and is speaker for the cause of freedom.

 

The bottom line is, the more you understand about history, economics, and the principles of freedom - the less likely you are to be a Democrat.

 

Hi, Alwayssa.

The next turning point in elections, federal, state and local, may well be the 2030 'census' round. This poor old country mouse won't, in all probability, be around to see how that turns out.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

Hi, DEFinning!

'Ed.' is short for editor. It's me looking over my own shoulder and bringing me up short whenever I get too pompous or pedantic. It's a little literary device I've developed over years of writing. And you're right. Bringing facts to the table doesn't mean that everyone sitting there is hungry.

It's also been amusing in recent years to watch the internecine struggle of our two major political parties cough up new pejoratives. 'Woke' is but the latest. These are thrown about willy-nilly, as are other 'trigger' phrases: 'Hillary's emails' and 'Hunter's laptop' will serve as examples. 'Fascist', 'communist' and 'socialist' are also continuously misappropriated.

Regards, and thanks for the response. I do get a kick out of writing.

 

Hi again, DEFinning.

The restructuring of the US Senate to produce minority rule is worth studying, and that's the truth. As far as the Republican/'conservative' party goes, its ideology can be measured by the party platform for the 2020 election. [Ed.: There wasn't one.]

Another peek into the party mindset can be found in the Texas Republican Party's 2022 report of its platform. Specifically:

"Constitutional Issues.
19. Amendments to the US Constitution: We:
d. Support restoring state sovereignty with the repeal of the 17th Amendment of the United States Constitution and the appointment of United States Senators by the state legislatures." [Ref: 6-Permanent-Platform-Committee-FINAL-REPORT-6-16-2022.pdf (texasgop.org)]

So much for maintaining a democratically-elected federal Senate. The change would turn the clock back to 1911.

Regards, best wishes to you and yours. [Ed.: That goes for me, too.]

 

This is what FDA and CDC saying about Ivermectin and CIVID-19

https://emergency.cdc.gov/newsletters/coca/020122.htm#:~:text=The U.S. Food and Drug,using ivermectin for COVID-19.






This is what MERCK , the maker of Ivermectin saying



Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic - Merck.com


There is no scientific reason to take Ivermectin as COVID0-19 yet, many, many republican would rather take Ivermectin then take COVID-19 vaccine.

 

The problem is we are teaching ignorant crap in schools that destroys people lives before they hardly get a chance to start living. We made the mistake of turning schools over to left wing ideologues 30 or so years. For that we have reaped a generation of whiny self important, narcissistic little misanthropes, that while, in reality, ignorant of almost everything, believe they know everything and for that reason are pretty much impervious to all rational thought.

 

Yes, because they needed to recoup the expenses of creating their ineffective vaccine.

 

May be do some research before you post.

MERCK didn’t make any COVID vaccine. MERCK made Ivermectin. If people take Ivermectin , MERCK makes money. If people take COVID vaccine, MERCK don’t make money.

 

Hi, garyd.

Thank you for taking time to quote my post and type a response. Unfortunately, it doesn't speak to the subject. To reiterate, the Republican Party will, if the demographic trends continue, modify its stance or face permanent minority status itself.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

PS. I was told, some time back, that the ancient Romans also complained about the younger generation going to the dogs.

 

I never commented on Ivermectins efficacy on covid. I commented on your statement about Republicans taking a "drug for animals". It is not just a drug for animals as it has been approved for human use for decades now. Saying its a drug for animals is nothing more than a cheap shot half truth aimed at smearing Republicans.

 

You guys have been saying that for decades. "Be patient. It's right around the corner." You keep on chasing the end of a rainbow.

 

Life saving vaccine backed by entire world medical community vs a medication made to dewormer animal.

I am not the one taking cheap shot at GOP. GOP themselves dehumanizing themselves with their foolish judgment.

 

Hi, independentthinker. I don't know who 'you guys' are, but I doubt they're fellow secular humanists. I do not see a rainbow, so there's no 'end' to chase.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

The vaccine wasn't even around for much of the time people were looking at Ivermectin. (such as when CNN made fun of Joe Rogan, who is not Republican btw, for saying he took Ivermectin at his doctors prescription.) Ivermectin is also used for more than just deworming. Again, I've shown plenty of evidence that Ivermectin has been approved for human use multiple times. Yet you persist in referencing its use for animals. That belies your claim that you're not one to take cheap shots at Republicans.

 

The AR-15 assault rifle is the weapon of choice for mass murders.

Our President and his Democratic colleagues in Congress want to ban assault weapons. The NRA-sponsored Republican Party won't allow that to happen.

The Post reports, "The AR-15 wasn’t supposed to be a bestseller.

"The rugged, powerful weapon was originally designed as a soldiers’ rifle in the late 1950s. “An outstanding weapon with phenomenal lethality,” an internal Pentagon report raved. It soon became standard issue for U.S. troops in the Vietnam War, where the weapon earned a new name: the M16.

"But few gunmakers saw a semiautomatic version of the rifle — with its shrouded barrel, pistol grip and jutting ammunition magazine — as a product for ordinary people. It didn’t seem suited for hunting. It seemed like overkill for home defense. Gun executives doubted many buyers would want to spend their money on one.

"Today, the AR-15 is the best-selling rifle in the United States, industry figures indicate. About 1 in 20 U.S. adults — or roughly 16 million people — own at least one AR-15."

ABC reports, "Two people were killed and five were injured in a pair of shootings in Little Rock, Arkansas, on Sunday evening, local police said.

"Police said they were alerted at about 9:25 p.m. local time that two people were injured in a shooting near the intersection of Asher and University avenues."

"Moments later, near Asher Avenue and Adams Street, multiple people were shot resulting in two homicides," officials said.

NBC reports, "A Tennessee Christian school where a mass shooting Monday left six people dead, including three children, serves students ranging from preschool through sixth grade. On a typical day, roughly 209 students attend The Covenant School,

"The suspect in Monday's deadly school shooting was a former student who had maps of The Covenant School, Nashville Police Chief John Drake said.

"Audrey Hale, 28, who police said was a transgender woman, had conducted surveillance and prepared for the attack with detailed maps, officials said. Police said the shooter had a manifesto, the contents of which were not released.

"The shooter, Drake said, was “prepared for a confrontation with law enforcement” and “prepared to do more harm."

"The shooter was armed with two semiautomatic AR-15-style rifles as well as a handgun. At least two of the three guns had been lawfully purchased, Drake said.

"The shooter was killed by responding police officers."

Mass murder has become an American pastime, and the NRA-sponsored Republican Party doesn't give a damn.

 

FDA which approved Ivermectin for human use , that same FDA posted this


Never use medications intended for animals on yourself or other people. Animal ivermectin products are very different from those approved for humans. Use of animal ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 in humans is dangerous.

People who prefer horse dewormer over life saving vaccine are idiot. Sad part of the whole thing is that these people's vote count and sometimes these people chose who will be POTUS.

 

Still perpetuating the lie I see. All while ignoring the fact that Ivermectin, even from your own source, can be used for humans. NO ONE TOOK ANIMAL IVERMECTIN. Get that through your head.

 

Obviously people were taking house dewormer as lifesaving medication so the maker of Ivermectin, MERCK had to put out a statement to public and say “ don’t take our medicine which are for animal, it’s not good for you”.

MERCK sent that warning because people were talking house dewormer as COVID-19 cure. Oh by the way , while they take Ivermactin , they think covid-19 is a hoax. they give their children house dewormer, while they think the disease doesn’t exists.

You can’t make this S%% up. These people vote and elect leader of the Free World.

 

House dewormer? No idea what that is.

And I've already given evidence that Ivermectin is used for people also. You are ignoring that evidence. Even from your own links you are ignoring it.

 

does this twite looks like i am telling people not to take medication which is for cow ? Apparently people were taking medicine which was made for cow. And FDA had to put out twite "you are not a horse, you are not a cow". FDA had to tell Americans that they are not cow. I am not making this S$$ up.