The Resurrection and the Death of Atheism

God is self existing.

 

What does that even mean?

 

Psalm 90:2

Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

 

What does that mean, what is self existing, explain please?

 

FALSE you proclaimed your belief in them/science.
It never throughout history has been required for anyone to explicitly name some one/thing as their god, the only necessity is to believe in something/one with the same or similar tenacity given to any other god, just like the people you are arguing against here

 

Unless you can show anywhere on this forum where I have stated that either Einstein, Dawkins or Darwin is a god you are a liar and this conversation is over.

 

It never throughout history has been requirement for anyone to explicitly name someone/thing as their god, the only necessity is to believe in something/one with the same or similar tenacity given to any other god, just like the people you are arguing against here

you chose your god by what you choose to believe or disbelieve, not by proclamation!

 

Our universe and whatever is outside or "before" our universe is self existing.

 

Yahweh is the name of the self existing eternal Godhead. https://carm.org/about-god/what-is-the-real-name-of-god-yhwh-jehovah-yahweh/

 

I know your religion quite well.

And, you are off topic.

 

The last time we found a previously unknown force was in 1999, when dark energy was discovered - demonstrated to us as a force causing acceleration of galaxies away from each other.

The full nature of this force is not fully understood. It may even be that this isn't a force - that it has a different explanation.

But, there is no question that this phenomenon exists - there is clear evidence.

Let's also remember that the vast majority of the mass/energy of this universe is unknown.

So, one can guess we will have significant new discoveries as we move forward.

And, they won't be accepted until there is evidence.

 

The universe is not eternal. https://carm.org/about-god/can-god-and-the-universe-be-the-same-thing/

 

The age of the earth is not important. https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/cosmology/case-for-dark-matter/

 

There are a few different possibilities for the destiny of this universe.

The most likely seems to be the continued expansion of our universe, leading to a gradual breakdown of all matter and dissipation - fading toward entropy.

But, that isn't an indicator of what might be happening outside our universe - something we know very little about, for obvious reasons.

 

For God to make everything, would not nothing have to turn itself into God?

 

You quote a creationist web site for your science!!?!?!

Yet, you know perfectly well that your religion (and that of others) has absolutely NO methodology for exploring our universe.

AND, you know that your religion has an absolute answer - REGARDLESS of what is discovered.

Those are two MAJOR reasons that there is NO CHANCE you should be looking to those sites for science.

Besides, from past discussions you know full well that your site gives false answers. I'm not saying they are lying (though it is certainly a possibility). I'm saying their overriding interest is their religion. Thus, they give views that are tuned to their religion, NOT to what science has found.

If you want to know about science, you have to ask science. There is NO other rational approach.

 

You may not realize it, but that is perfectly circular "logic".

 

Science supports that the universe is not eternal. https://www.gotquestions.org/universe-eternal.html

 

God is self existing. He doesn't need a Creator.

 

Do you think what Answers in Genesis says about dark matter hints that the earth is old? https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/cosmology/case-for-dark-matter/

 

No. For God there is no beginning or end. He has always existed and always will exist. He is the creator.

 

It takes more faith to believe that there is no God than to believe that there is a God. How could matter come into being by itself from nothing? How could an effect come from no cause? How could life come from non-life? How could intelligence come from non-intelligence? How could meaning come from meaninglessness? These are all things that an atheist must believe in order to be consistent-and they all contradict the irrefutable Law of Cause and Effect.

 

First, let's remember that having religion agree with something on which science has reached a conclusion proves absolutely NOTHING about religion OR science.

You get that, right?

Beyond that, your site states right of the bat that it is presenting a religious point of view.

And, we see that is true as the site doesn't present the actual view of science concerning the future of this universe.

This idea that you would go to RELIGION to find an answer to a question of SCIENCE is just plain nutty. If you want to know answers of science, you have to consult science.

 

Your source is biased with no intention of being objective; it can therefore be summarily dismissed.

 

Why would I care???

When we want to know about an answer that is in the realm of science, one has to ask science.

Religion has NO methodology for exploration of our universe.

Religion doesn't even have a method for investigating religion!!

The whole purpose of "answersingenesis" is to defend religion. And, that primary objective leads them to make numerous absolutely astoundingly ridiculous statements about how this universe works.