The rich SHOULD pay a higher tax rate!!

No, they're really that stupid, especially the young skulls of mush who have been indoctrinated in the liberal agenda from our schools and universities, but they really think they're critical thinkers....LMFAO!!!!!!

 

I don't think it possible to measure the depth of the stupidity. There is one loony liberal on this forum that constantly harps that the national debt doesn't matter and t he debt is not real anyway.
Many sing the praises of the Democrat Senate and vilify the Republican House for blocking everything, when in fact the House keeps passing bills and sending them to the Senate where nothing happens. The Senate has done next to nothing in a year. And universally they all agree that taxes should be raised on the rich, even tho the obama proposed amounts would bring in only a half a percent of an average obama deficit. Passing laws designed to HURT one group while doing nothing to HELP the nation is not stupid, its insane.

 

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... dem rich folks not only make enough money fer demselves an' family...

... but dey also make enough to support 2 or 3 homeless families...

... who are homeless cause dey lost their jobs...

... when some rich factory owner decided to close down the plant...

... an' move it to Mexico, China, or India.

 

Den Granny bees a 'pinyeated fool!

 

The disincentive related to taxes is VASTLY overstated by people on the right. There is of course disincentive involved, but the rates for that to become relevant need to be incredibly high. Especially since we are talking about marginal tax rates here. The disincentive is almost nonexistent.

 

Better yet: Reduce the size and scope of government and rich people would not benefit as much.

You got the cart in front of the horse.

 

Being called stupid by you is a great honor to all people!! It is a very good indicator that a person has a very high IQ!!

 

What does any of this mean? It is just random babbling about how much you really, really, really, really hate mean liberals!!

 

It would not solve the problem. Rich people make up such a small percentage of the population that the revenue would be minimal. I do agree they need to pay a higher percentage, but I would not use them as scapegoats for our debt issues. People just have to come to the reality that we have a large credit card bill we all need to pay off.

 

I wouldn't make them scape goats for the debt problem either. Despite what alarmists people have said in this thread, I have no interest in making anyone a scapegoat for anything. I don't want to punish anyone. I don't want anyone to be responsible for anything they shouldn't be responsible for. I know that the debt problem is a multi-faceted problem that would take a lot more than raising marginal taxes on the wealthy to fix. It will take, cuts to the defense budget, health care reform that actually works(unlike Obama's healthcare reform), cuts to corporate welfare, cuts to subsidies, cuts to other things as well. It will also take tax hikes as well. However, all that can wait. This thread isn't about solving the debt crisis, it is just about progressive taxation in general. We can wait until the recovery is in full gear before we need to raise taxes and cut spending.

 

You were talking about people with Billions of dollars, right?

Even just 1% of $1 Billion is $10 Million. I don't think they would have gotten that rich if they thought $10 Million were "nonexistent", as you put it...

Something tells me you don't understand what it is you are saying.

The rich didn't become rich by just throwing away tens of Millions of dollars, as you seem to think they are willing to do.

 

I would have to concur in that some of the things you say do make you look naive and maybe even a bit stupid about some of the things you assert.

 

Complete BS....yes you do, but you sure do have a hard time admitting it. I know it must be embarrassing to think this way, but the least you could do is admit it.

You said you wanted the rich to pay more. Why would that be if you didn't feel that in someway they should be responsible for more than someone else? You will say it isn't true, but the truth is....you are jealous, you want something someone else has, only you just don't want to have to go through what it took for the rich person to get it, you know all that hard work, sacrifice and those scary investments that may or may not be successful....sooooo if you can't have it, noone else should. If it's clear to the people on the blog that this is how you are, imagine what the people in your real life really think of you?

 

That works for me as well. However, since that will NEVER happen, my option is far more realistic. We have seen higher tax rates in the recent past, where as governments that don't serve primarily the interests of the elite are exceptionally rare. Even socialist/communist governments that were meant to be based on equality served the interests of the elite first, it was just that elite status was gained through other sources besides capital.

 

Listen Gaar my friend. First of all, no one makes 1 billion dollars in income a year. People may have net worths in that realm, but no one has income income that high. The highest incomes tend to be somewhere between 500,000,000 and 750,000,000. Next up, you need to understand what you are saying. If some one is in line to make an extra 10 million dollars, but the income tax rate has been raised by 3% so that they will only pocket 8 million now instead of 8,500,000(I don't know the exact way it would work out, because the very wealthy are incredibly good at sheltering their money), who would then say "I don't even want the 8 million now!!" It is entirely unrealistic. The tax rate needs to be incredibly high on income for the disincentive to work to come into play. Especially since, as I already pointed out in this thread, the labor supply curve at it's highest points is backwards bending.

 

Stop lying, no it doesn't. You will vote for Obama again to assure that never happens.

You are right, it will never happen as long as you vote for Obama again....

Duh, no kidding....that's because it's a scam. Always is.

 

I am a successful person, who is on the exact path I want to be on!! If I wanted to be a very wealthy businessman, I would be able to. I have the academic background that I could get into almost any business school in the country, plus the fact that I have corporate experience as well. I choose not to take that path, because it is a path that doesn't interest me. So stop projecting, and creating straw men. It reflects poorly on you.


I already explained why the rich should pay more in taxes, and it has absolutely nothing to do with jealousy. It has only to do with a proper understanding of the world and our political system.

 

More projection and straw men!! There is a 0% chance I will vote for Obama. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about on this issue. You can't contradict my argument, so instead you create straw men to attack, and make it personal. It is really embarrassing for you, and you should stop.

 

Yeah right, sorry I don't believe a word of what you say. And it has always been my experience that the more people prop themselves up to other people, the more BS it is.

 

What strawman? You clearly don't even know the meaning of the word...even with all your academic experience.

I can't? I believe I just did.

 

How did I prop myself up? Did I tell you I am super rich, and I have my pick of all the models in NYC? NO!! All I said is that I like the path I am on. So really, what the hell are you talking about?

 

Obama and Democrats are doing just that. They are also using the rich to represent a blame object for unemployment, low wages, and the recession in general. They are playing to the lowest common denominator...people that are down on their luck and looking for someone to blame. It's easy, cheesy politics 101.

 

You saying I will vote for Obama, and that I am jealous. That is what straw men are. Inventing arguments and motivations for the person you are debating, and arguing against those. I won't vote for Obama, and I am not jealous of the very rich. You simply cannot make any other argument, so straw men and projection is all that is left to you!!

 

Your post makes sense. (at least the first couple paragraphs do) I didn't read the rest.- A bit too much text for me at this time.

 

What do you want me to say to this? Of course they are pandering!! They want people to believe they are for the common man, where as the evil Republicans only serve the interests of the wealthy. When the reality is, both parties only serve the interests of the wealthy. Democrats just use populist talking points to get people to vote for them, but in practice they never actually do the populist things. Just like Republicans talk about fiscal responsibility and small government, but in practice they are fiscally irresponsible and consistently make government larger.