how can there be evidence to the contrary? if the cheating isn't caught, it can't be a statistic..... you have your head in the sand if you don't realize that....
The problem with a voter I.D. is that it discriminates, against the elderly, the disabled, the poor, and minorities. It's a voter suppression law. The Republicans love it.
I support voters undergoing everything gun owners have to in order to exercise their enumerated 2nd amendment rights.
Getting rid of the voting rights act may have been a good move by the GOP Sup Ct. Both parties seem capable of either facilitating people casting ballots, or preventing them from doing so, and It's pretty much impossible for one party to flip written ballots statewide. So we're back to good old partisan backstabbing. lOL
yes, discriminates.... oh yes, token line... how do elderly travel? disabled? minorities? they never travel? how do they cash a check? how do they apply for a loan? how do they open up a bank account? how do they buy alcohol? rent an apartment? apply for assistance? pick up an prescription? dems excuse!!
If all you need to vote is the same ID you use to buy booze or cash a check at "pay day" or your bank deposit for a direct deposit Soc Sec check or your nursing home identifying you as a resident .... no problem.
And the old canard Fraud by Individual Voters is Almost Nonexistent How many fraudulent votes would it have taken to determine which party controls the Virginia statehouse in their election last year?
You are basically just a conspiracy theorist then. There is no evidence of widespread cheating and the amount of research that has been done is overwhelming. Including by the Trump Justice Dept.
Do you think that the state of Virginia doesn't check to see if anyone voted illegally in their election? All states do. Elections are run by counties and people who vote illegally do get caught. Why would any county or even smaller polling location allow someone to vote illegally?
How do you know if it's rare or commonplace when there are so few safeguards? There seems to be no doubt that more secure steps must be taken.
Because when people look for incidences of voter fraud, and they have looked and do all the time, it is incredibly rare. If it was common we would see evidence when research is done. There has been a lot of research: https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/debunking-voter-fraud-myth
How would they know what's happening in any election while sitting in an office in New York? Check out the first paragraph. https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/william-j-brennan-center-for-justice/
You didn't read the link I posted. It links to dozens of studies done about voter fraud. The location of the organization who put all those links on one page is irrelevant.
The issue is the canard that since there's not a lot of fraudulent voting so it is not an issue. Again how many fraudulent votes would it have taken in Virginia last year to change which party controlled the Virginia statehouse? How many in the 2000 Presidential election?
//Yawn //Stretch Found any evidence for this yet? Any? From a reputable source? No? Okay, I'll keep waiting.
I'm the one waiting for an answer vis-a-vis the canard Fraud by Individual Voters is Almost Nonexistent How many fraudulent votes would it have taken to determine which party controls the Virginia statehouse in their election last year?
You're attempts at juxtaposing this to avoid the brutal truth are adorable. So you will not be producing any evidence of voter fraud? Okay, that's exactly what I expect since it doesn't exist. But do, please carry on with your attempts at disenfranchisement under the false banner of 'securing votes'. A ruse as old as the antebellum south!
Why the dancing and dodging. The claim is that wine there is solittle voter fraud we shouldn't worry about it. Fraud by Individual Voters is Almost Nonexistent How many fraudulent votes would it have taken to determine which party controls the Virginia statehouse in their election last year?
You don't get to duck a request and claim to be the victim slick. Either come up with some evidence or keeping talking yourself in circles, either way it's fine by me. You'd think a lack of evidence might be a convincing argument but alas, that's never stopped conspiracy theorist before...
I asked first, why all the refusals to answer the question? Because it blows out of the water the canard about voter fraud is not an issue because it is not widespread and of some enormous volume? Answer the question and then we will move on does it happen in enough volume to affect an election.
Why tell lies? We can all view this thread. Check post #33 in this very thread. Still waiting btw, maybe once you can prove this boogieman exists, we can deal with the impact of his presence. Until then, I'll keeping treating voter fraud like the easter bunny.
So you are claiming voter fraud does not exist at all while refusing to answer my question? You said it has to be widespread to effect an election. Prove it. How many would it have taken to determine which side party took control of the Virginia statehouse last year?