The Truth About the Second Amendment

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  1. Vegas giants

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    In your opinion which matters not in the slightest
     
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    No, not really in my opinion. According to the black letter law of the constitution. As I said, the constitution contains no legislative authority for congress to make a law restricting the ability of the people of the several states from acquiring (or creating) and possessing arms.
     
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    In your opinion which carries no legal weight.
     
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    I see you can't point to any language in the constitution that would give congress legislative authority to enact any law that would restrict the ability of the people of the several states from acquiring (or manufacturing) and possessing arms.

    It's like shooting fish in a barrel...
     
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    The commerce clause is quite clear. Commerce within a state affects commerce between the states.
     
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    It's clear? What exactly does it say?
     
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    It is crystal clear
     
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    If you say so. Can you please tell us what it says, exactly?
     
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    But only as limited to:


    1. the channels of commerce;


    2. the instrumentalities of commerce in interstate commerce, or persons or things in interstate commerce, even though the threat may come only from intrastate activities; and

    3. activities which “substantially affect” interstate commerce.
     
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    That was the layman’s interpretation under the Wickard SCOTUS case in the 40’s, but it was superseded by Lopez in ‘95.
    There,
     
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    The constitution says this where?
     
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    As you know federal gun control remains. Lopez was very limited
     
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    It doesn’t. It was an arguement presented in the Wickard case.
     
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    Yep. That is why we have federal gun control laws now
     
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    Yes, I am well aware. Others apparently are not.
     
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    Which have no constitutional basis.
     
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    I love the wickard decision
     
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    In your opinion mr justice. Lol
     
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    Which is to say you love subversion of the law of the land.

    Got it.
     
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    I'm happy for you to show me the text. I long for it.
     
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    In your opinion mr justice
     
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    How about you show me the text from the constitution?
     
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    I bet you do. Can you show me the text that allows you to have the freedom to post here?

    Note this is not speech
     
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    There's no constitutional text that prohibits me from posting here.

    I'm still waiting for you to show us all the constitutional text that would allow congress to create a law prohibiting a person in, say, Pennsylvania from constructing herself, say, a machine gun.
     
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    So a law banning newspapers and posting on a computer would be constitutional?
     

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